I was glad to see Watson get another chance as he had an outstanding pre-season. Don't know why he wasn't kept around on the PR, but maybe that was his decision. Not a very big guy but has some possibilities IMO, especially with Ricky Ray lobbing his rainbows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon Gonzo
I believe he chose to return home to finish his degree instead of taking a PR spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubleblue
Posey has signed with the Baltimore Ravens.
I agree that PR player Brian Tyms could help the team considering what he did in Hamilton.
I see Posey's is scheduled to make $730,000 (no signing bonus) with Baltimore, if he sticks, because of having played 3 years in the League. Listed as #3 on the depth chart at one of the WR spots. With the NFL minimum at $480,000 he might lose out to a rookie. I have noticed from past history most NFL teams will pay the top two players at a position but after that generally look to find players they can pay the minimum.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrym
If Posey can be a #2 backup on the depth chart he should be ok, but if not could be let go for a younger cheaper WR.
Another guy with CFL ties, former Hamilton/BC WR Sinkfield is scheduled to make $630,000.
One guy who has made it big in the NFL coming out of the CIS. OG Duvernay-Tardif at KC. re-signed for $3,310,000 plus a $2,000,000 signing bonus.
Former Saskatchewan LB Freeman. $3,500,000 plus $500,000 signing bonus.
I agree that Posey's salary significantly reduces his chances of making it in the NFL. Many players are gone after three years because of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubleblue
You can see why these players want to take a shot at the NFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubleblue
Typical NFL BS politics. They increase the minimum salary in year 4, making it more difficult for a 4th year player to stick, yet players only qualify for a pension after 50 games played, which means they must play into their 4th year. Sadly, the majority of players that get their pensions are the ones that can make due without them.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrym
Robert Drummond is a prime example of a guy that came 2 games shy of qualifying for his pension.
Interesting post.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngeloV
Even $750k that's around $1 MILLION CDN is a significant amount, the highest income tax rate in the US kicks in at $500k but $200k in Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubleblue
If the average salary in Canada is $50k it would take 20 years to earn $1 million. Even a CFL player earning $100k would need 10 years to make a million.
Some of these players earning over a million are set for life even if they only play 2 or 3 season.
With the higher taxes and higher cost of living in Canada, you can't blame them for trying to get to the big prize, the NFL
Look at Wilder Jr, his family is in Tampa and he has to support them as well as living and maintaining a place in Toronto.
Sitting out one year is the right thing for him to do.
Same goes for Chris Schultz. IIRC he was one game away.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngeloV
Wow, I had never heard that before. I miss Shultzie on the panel.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22
I might be wrong about the amount of games left but Jim Popp mentioned that Schultz was only a game or two away from his pension and got cut right before achieving it.Quote:
Originally Posted by doubleblue
I disagree. I think that Wilder will be killing any NFL shot that he has if he sits out this season. He would be 27 next year and will have started a half dozen professional football games in three years. It wasn't like there was a lineup in the NFL for Wilder's services coming into the 2017 season either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flutie
He won't have the snot beaten out of him and his family name carries weight in NFL circles, so I guess he figures he has a got shot at getting signed if he stays in shape.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArgoRavi
I believe he is hurting himself and his future aspirations to play in the NFL. The best course to me is to come back to Toronto and deliver on his 1,000 + 1,000 goal that he has already set, and was already training for. That would bring him a bigger signing bonus down South. I have a gut feeling that we'll see #32 in the Argo backfield this season. It's the right thing to do for both parties. Give him a few more shekels and get a solid shot at winning another Grey Cup
From what I have read about his life in Tampa, he can make more money staying there. He has a business down there and also does motivational speaking too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArgoRavi
It sounds like he has put his family first. Stay with them down there for a year and make a decent living and try the NFL next year.
The ideal solution is the Argos giving him a good raise instead of this "hardball" stuff about "hey you signed for minimum wage and we can't give you anymore" he was one of the main reasons why the Argos won the Grey Cup. There are Canadian "O" linemen that are making more money than him.
If he was just another average player that did nothing spectacular then I would agree, hold him to his contract or walk, but this guy was rookie of the year and he deserves more money!! It's not like this would set a precedence, he's not like the average rookie.
All the Argos have done is guarantee that he won't be back at all even if he doesn't make it with an NFL team, he would never come back to the Argos, he would sign with another CFL team for sure.
If I was working in a business and I was the main reason for the business doing well and they say to me "you can't have a raise because you signed a contract it would set a precedence" I would be out of there. In any other job you could leave even if you signed a contract accepting the wages etc, it is really unfair that he can't walk out and get employment anywhere else.
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Originally Posted by Flutie
He might have got a decent raise if he had kept his big, whining mouth shut. Instead, he became a legend in his own mind, who figures he's bigger than the Argo TEAM and is some sort of superior NFL talent.
The guy had a handful of really good games for the Argos, plus made that real nice clutch catch in the East Final winning drive; he also did littl;e in some other games; he's also vastly over-rated by some here IMO; his ultra weak 7 carries for 15 yards in the GC game can easily be replaced. "Main reason" my @r$e.
Thing is though Wilder never asked the Argos for more money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flutie
Except for the fact Wilder has already had a couple of chances in the NFL and didn’t stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleBlue_Red
I think your summary is dead on OV.Quote:
Originally Posted by OV Argo
When he started pleading his case through social media right after declaring he wanted to gain 1000 +1000 yards in 2018 in Toronto he lost credibility with me.
Which Wilder do we believe?