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12-17-2019, 11:08 PM
KCargosfan

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Your post on the CFL.ca board here cracked me up. Nice Work.

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Dec 16 2019, 09:01 AM

Quote from: Cflsteve0773 on Dec 15 2019, 11:31 PM

If TSN had any kind of brains at all. Scrap the CFL Thur Nite games. & have a Thursday night USports National game of the week.
Students are on campus. And there are Regional in conference Rivalries. Like Mac & Western. Laval & Montreal. Off the top of my head.

Yeah, it would be unbelievably brainy to replace a product that gets good ratings with one that hasn't had any network interested in it for years, and that in most locations can't get more than a couple thousand people to attend in person. Can't believe TSN hasn't thought of this already!
12-18-2019, 06:35 PM
bannedforlife

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Originally Posted by KCargosfan

Your post on the CFL.ca board here cracked me up. Nice Work.

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Quote from: Cflsteve0773 on Dec 15 2019, 11:31 PM
If TSN had any kind of brains at all. Scrap the CFL Thur Nite games. & have a Thursday night USports National game of the week.
Students are on campus. And there are Regional in conference Rivalries. Like Mac & Western. Laval & Montreal. Off the top of my head.

Yeah, it would be unbelievably brainy to replace a product that gets good ratings with one that hasn't had any network interested in it for years, and that in most locations can't get more than a couple thousand people to attend in person. Can't believe TSN hasn't thought of this already!

It's awfully easy to be negatively smug and there's way too damn much of it by supposed CFL fans. I don't think any newcomer finds that attractive at a website.

There's two forces at work here, I actually think it's a pretty good idea but unfortunately TSN is not the rights holder for USports. Thursday night CFL games get good ratings for a slow night but are not helping league attendance, they're hurting it. I would love to see TSN do to USports what they did for the CFL. Back in the 70's CBC had tons of college sports coverage, why then are TSN and ugh Rogers helping to build another country's college sports profile in this country. It's totally perverted!
12-18-2019, 06:52 PM
paulwoods13

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Originally Posted by bannedforlife

I actually think it's a pretty good idea but unfortunately TSN is not the rights holder for USports. Thursday night CFL games get good ratings for a slow night but are not helping league attendance, they're hurting it. I would love to see TSN do to USports what they did for the CFL. Back in the 70's CBC had tons of college sports coverage, why then are TSN and ugh Rogers helping to build another country's college sports profile in this country. It's totally perverted!

You may think it's a good idea, but I have yet to hear one argument as to why TSN would think it's a good idea. They're in the business of making as much money as possible for shareholders; abandoning a successful program for one that would have a fraction of the viewership would not achieve that objective.
12-18-2019, 06:56 PM
bannedforlife

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Originally Posted by paulwoods13

You may think it's a good idea, but I have yet to hear one argument as to why TSN would think it's a good idea. They're in the business of making as much money as possible for shareholders; abandoning a successful program for one that would have a fraction of the viewership would not achieve that objective.

It's called building a property. When was there a market for NCAA hockey in Canada? TSN is trying to build one and that is still perverted.
12-18-2019, 07:32 PM
paulwoods13

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Originally Posted by bannedforlife

It's called building a property. When was there a market for NCAA hockey in Canada? TSN is trying to build one and that is still perverted.

I have no idea what TSN is doing with NCAA hockey altho I have yet to see a single such game in my feed. But I'll take this at face value and ask: are they doing it at the expense of an existing revenue-stream/profit-generating property?
12-19-2019, 12:03 AM
OV Argo

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Originally Posted by bannedforlife

It's awfully easy to be negatively smug and there's way too damn much of it by supposed CFL fans. I don't think any newcomer finds that attractive at a website.

There's two forces at work here, I actually think it's a pretty good idea but unfortunately TSN is not the rights holder for USports. Thursday night CFL games get good ratings for a slow night but are not helping league attendance, they're hurting it. I would love to see TSN do to USports what they did for the CFL. Back in the 70's CBC had tons of college sports coverage, why then are TSN and ugh Rogers helping to build another country's college sports profile in this country. It's totally perverted!

You can't really expect TSN or the CFL to give a rat's @$$ about other levels of Canadian football or to have any concern about the general concept of Canadian ball being promoted or show-cased - doesn't make any bottom-line $ense to the bean-counters who know best. You can expect some CFL "fans" to being smugly dismissive of other Canadian football they don't know or care about, OTOH.

I wonder if TSN might consider, however, if an Argo home game coincided with game day of the annual Panda Game in Ottawa, of switching TV coverage to the Canadian college ball game instead: 20K plus of fans enjoying a Canadian football game as opposed to the embarassing spectacle of 10 to 12 K and reams of empty seats at the Argo game ? Much better optics there that some bean-counters at TSN or the CFL or MLSE might want to get in on, if it could somehow make bottom-line sense ? Could also think of bumping an Argo home game in favor of TV coverage of a Rouge & Or / Carabins match-up in Quebec City with probably double the number of fans in attendance - sure "looks" better than thousands of empty seats in TO - could that mean better "ratings" ? TSN loves showing plenty of US college ball while they continue to ignore Canadian college ball - surely can be rationalized by the bottom line = all that really matters, no ? Maybe TSN could rig a deal to have some big US college ball games played on Friday nights and put that on the majority of their feeds - CFL game only on TSN 4 maybe or not at all ? - surely would be justified if some ratings gains were to be had - "shareholders" would love this; AND plenty of wannabes in the Canadian media approved too ?
12-19-2019, 12:56 AM
argolio

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Originally Posted by paulwoods13

I have no idea what TSN is doing with NCAA hockey altho I have yet to see a single such game in my feed. But I'll take this at face value and ask: are they doing it at the expense of an existing revenue-stream/profit-generating property?

It's live programming which costs them almost nothing in rights fees and nothing in production costs.

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Originally Posted by OV Argo

You can't really expect TSN or the CFL to give a rat's @$$ about other levels of Canadian football or to have any concern about the general concept of Canadian ball being promoted or show-cased - doesn't make any bottom-line $ense to the bean-counters who know best. You can expect some CFL "fans" to being smugly dismissive of other Canadian football they don't know or care about, OTOH.?

Why should TSN or any network care when USports doesn't give a sh;t? Unless USports wakes up, nothing will change.
12-19-2019, 09:13 AM
paulwoods13

Smugly dismissive of anyone who sneers "bean-counters know best" sarcastically, or takes issue with corporations focusing on their bottom line? Guilty as charged, I guess.

There's a good case to be made that it would be a good thing to have Canadian university football shown regularly on TV. There's much less of a case to be made that it would be profitable for any network to do so. There's no case whatsoever that it would be beneficial to a network to do so at the expense of one of its biggest and most popular -- with viewers and advertisers -- properties.
12-20-2019, 04:59 AM
KCargosfan

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Originally Posted by paulwoods13

Smugly dismissive of anyone who sneers "bean-counters know best" sarcastically, or takes issue with corporations focusing on their bottom line? Guilty as charged, I guess.

There's a good case to be made that it would be a good thing to have Canadian university football shown regularly on TV. There's much less of a case to be made that it would be profitable for any network to do so. There's no case whatsoever that it would be beneficial to a network to do so at the expense of one of its biggest and most popular -- with viewers and advertisers -- properties.

This kind of logical thinking and sound argument has no place here, sir.
12-20-2019, 07:46 AM
Neely2005

Something that I do wonder is why TSN and Sportsnet show the same thing on all or most of their channels so often? I think they have 5 channels each, it would make more sense to have different things on each channel.

As to CIS Football, I thought that they offered an online subscription service to watch their games now?
12-20-2019, 08:15 AM
doubleblue

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Originally Posted by Neely2005

Something that I do wonder is why TSN and Sportsnet show the same thing on all or most of their channels so often? I think they have 5 channels each, it would make more sense to have different things on each channel.

As to CIS Football, I thought that they offered an online subscription service to watch their games now?

They do.
12-20-2019, 08:27 AM
AngeloV

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Originally Posted by doubleblue

They do.

I watched most UofT games this year. It’s offered but it’s not quality.
12-20-2019, 08:45 AM
gilthethrill

CIS Football remains a hidden gem in this country, sadly.
12-20-2019, 08:56 AM
paulwoods13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neely2005

Something that I do wonder is why TSN and Sportsnet show the same thing on all or most of their channels so often? I think they have 5 channels each, it would make more sense to have different things on each channel.

As to CIS Football, I thought that they offered an online subscription service to watch their games now?

Production costs, I imagine.