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03-08-2013, 12:53 PM
bluto

Argos Roster

We're up to 67 bodies on there as of today... including Belli, but i'm not sure if he intends to play after spending the first half of last season retired.

http://www.argonauts.ca/roster/index/team/7/sort/last

So we've room for one or maybe two more bodies (plus prior draft picks and a pair of this years picks)... you'd think that it would have to be a DT, right? Mr. Huntley is the only DT on there as of now that we know will be playing.

As i look over the roster, it looks there's plenty of coverage for all the other positions.
03-08-2013, 01:21 PM
OV Argo

Good chance Cleon Laing will sign to compete at DT? - not sure why the delay on siging last year's draft picks like Laing, Tonye-Tonye - doubt they will be NFL drafted but I guess they could be waiting to see about a FA look? Luke Wilson may get an NFL look; the Stamps have already signed a couple of their NCAA NI draft picks of last year.

DT should get more TC competition for sure; also not sold on enough DE competition from that roster either; and O-Line is a big position group that could maybe use some more talent.
03-08-2013, 03:48 PM
bluto

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Originally Posted by OV Argo

Good chance Cleon Laing will sign to compete at DT? - not sure why the delay on siging last year's draft picks like Laing, Tonye-Tonye - doubt they will be NFL drafted but I guess they could be waiting to see about a FA look? Luke Wilson may get an NFL look; the Stamps have already signed a couple of their NCAA NI draft picks of last year.

DT should get more TC competition for sure; also not sold on enough DE competition from that roster either; and O-Line is a big position group that could maybe use some more talent.

there are 8 of them on there... i doubt there'll be much (if any) more than that
03-08-2013, 05:14 PM
paulwoods13

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Originally Posted by bluto

there are 8 of them on there... i doubt there'll be much (if any) more than that

Lots of DEs, only two DTs listed (and one is Belli). Can any of the DEs play inside?
03-08-2013, 09:17 PM
OV Argo

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Originally Posted by paulwoods13

Lots of DEs, only two DTs listed (and one is Belli). Can any of the DEs play inside?

Armstead was a DE in college ball, and moved inside to play DT in the CFL; wouldn't surprise me to see one of those guys listed at DE get a look at DT (Adrain Awasome (?) who once played for the Giants - perhaps?).

Anyhow - no limit on positions for TC - more DT competition needed for sure; and the DEs on the roster are mighty unproven - Lee was impressive last year, and Paige-Moss got some time; like to see the Argos nab one of the DE prospects in what seems like a good crop - in the upcoming draft - could address DE at #8 and DT at #17 or vice versa perhaps - but a lot to be determined before draft day (list of E-Camp participants to come out next week i believe).
03-08-2013, 09:58 PM
Wobbler

There are five more tryout camps scheduled this month, plus the draft, and the opportunity for many other roster changes. I suspect that we'll find some DTs.
03-09-2013, 09:09 AM
paulwoods13

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Originally Posted by OV Argo

Anyhow - no limit on positions for TC - more DT competition needed for sure; and the DEs on the roster are mighty unproven - Lee was impressive last year, and Paige-Moss got some time

OV, not sure what you mean about "no limit" but unfortunately there is a limit on the number of players who can be brought to camp, and Bluto's original point (I think) was that at 67 bodies, we are getting towards that limit already.

Paige-Moss, Lyle and Geathers all played in the season finale, and I am pretty sure P-M played at least one or two other games last year. Geathers had a sack and a forced fumble against Hamilton. All three of them are likely at or near the top of the depth chart at this point. Looking forward to seeing what they and the other newbies can do. I also think Zander Robinson may finally be ready to see some serious playing time on the line -- he started to work into the rotation late last season after playing only special teams most of his first two seasons.
03-09-2013, 09:29 AM
bluto

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Originally Posted by paulwoods13

OV, not sure what you mean about "no limit" but unfortunately there is a limit on the number of players who can be brought to camp, and Bluto's original point (I think) was that at 67 bodies, we are getting towards that limit already.

Paige-Moss, Lyle and Geathers all played in the season finale, and I am pretty sure P-M played at least one or two other games last year. Geathers had a sack and a forced fumble against Hamilton. All three of them are likely at or near the top of the depth chart at this point. Looking forward to seeing what they and the other newbies can do. I also think Zander Robinson may finally be ready to see some serious playing time on the line -- he started to work into the rotation late last season after playing only special teams most of his first two seasons.

that's precisely what i meant. i understood the TC roster to be 68 guys plus any unsigned non-imports and a maximum of 2 draft picks from this year... so, we're pretty much there already at 67 (or 66 pending what Adriano Belli does)
03-09-2013, 12:59 PM
OV Argo

There are often cuts, well or just before TC - some vets who are no longer in the plan, or some of the new import FAs are found lacking or else get cold feet; so - maybe some more room yet; and definitely DT competition needed; and IMO, not at all convinced the DE group on the roster is going to reveal a strong starting DE or two, but maybe; still possible to add some new talent to compete though is my point.
03-09-2013, 01:06 PM
ArgoRavi

The Argos will be holding a mini-camp in late April at which time they will further evaluate some of their new signings so there will likely be additional moves made after that camp.
03-09-2013, 01:26 PM
OV Argo

Not sure how the TC roster rules work with regards to draft picks? - are all draft picks reporting for the first time non-counters? - so would last year's picks who might show up (Laing, Tonye-Tonye) + any or all of this year's picks, be allowed to be added to the 68 bodies TC limit?

Right now of 66 guys on the roster - 42 are imports and only 24 NIs (and Belli could retire again; Wayne Smith has a lot of injury history/mileage Walter Spencer is getting on in age and only plays STs; not sure Kouame is ever going to get a shot to play at receiver ?); LOTS of new import talent has been added to compete in TC; but I guess if you only need 7 NIs to apply for playing time, 20 some to compete for the 20 NI roster spots is "radically", er, good enough? ;o)
03-09-2013, 02:56 PM
ArgoRavi

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Originally Posted by OV Argo

Not sure how the TC roster rules work with regards to draft picks? - are all draft picks reporting for the first time non-counters? - so would last year's picks who might show up (Laing, Tonye-Tonye) + any or all of this year's picks, be allowed to be added to the 68 bodies TC limit?

Those who have any CIS eligibility left do not count on the TC roster.
03-09-2013, 03:59 PM
Midnight Blue

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Originally Posted by ArgoRavi

Those who have any CIS eligibility left do not count on the TC roster.

Well, this certainly rules out 1argoholic, and myself. We're both over forty. And probably Sir Paul Woods. Though he could be a great, historical coaching assistant, if he ever wanted to.

And then there's OV. I would love to see an Argo Team, run by OV Argo.

He'd have to work on the ratio, though. Piece of cake; get more Canadian Cheerleader Babes.

Ok, I'll shut up now; I need to shower, sober up, and prepare for a wicked Saturday Night.

Ka' Pla !
03-09-2013, 04:23 PM
OV Argo

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Originally Posted by ArgoRavi

Those who have any CIS eligibility left do not count on the TC roster.

You sure on that Ravi?

SO - if the Argos sign both Laing & Tonye-Tonye from last year's draft, and maybe add another NCAA NI draft pick who would report as well - as it stands now, there is not room to add those 3 given they're already at close to 68 for TC?

And pretty well all CIS draft picks have a year of eligibility left there (they are CFL draft eligible after 4 years, but can play 5 years of CIS ball), but some draft / eligibility exceptions happen at times i think (?).
03-09-2013, 05:32 PM
popo

Two of those DE's listed on the roster, Awasom and Horsley are listed at 6'5"/280 and 6'7"/298 respectively. That is DT size in the CFL.
03-09-2013, 07:59 PM
ArgoRavi

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Originally Posted by OV Argo

You sure on that Ravi?

SO - if the Argos sign both Laing & Tonye-Tonye from last year's draft, and maybe add another NCAA NI draft pick who would report as well - as it stands now, there is not room to add those 3 given they're already at close to 68 for TC?

And pretty well all CIS draft picks have a year of eligibility left there (they are CFL draft eligible after 4 years, but can play 5 years of CIS ball), but some draft / eligibility exceptions happen at times i think (?).

I am pretty sure, OV. Players like Tonye-Tonye and Laing do count against the roster in camp because they have no college eligibility remaining. There will be more deletions from the roster to make room for additions such as the two aforementioned players and others.
03-13-2013, 11:33 AM
bluto

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http://argonauts.ca/roster/show/id/5745

Argos sign former Lion WR Derrick Williams today

Attachment 243

That brings us to 68 players on the roster right now.
03-14-2013, 12:26 AM
argolio

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Originally Posted by bluto

http://argonauts.ca/roster/show/id/5745

Argos sign former Lion WR Derrick Williams today.

I know he was very sought after coming out of high school. His Penn State numbers weren't eye-popping, but I think the Argos were intrigued with his versatility (receiving, rushing, return game).

Should be some interesting competition among the receivers at camp.