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Week 12
Saturday, September 15th 2012 at 7:00pm ET.
BC Place. Vancouver, BC.
TV: TSN
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Video Webcast: ESPN3
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Arogs Comeback Falls Short In BC
This should be a real test for the Argos as the Lions are by far the best team in the league while the wins over Hamilton showed improvement in the offence to some extent. The Hamilton games also raise questions as to how much of that success came as a result of the weak Hamilton defence.
You can't control who you're playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrym
The Lions will be a much sterner test for the Argos though. The Lions carved the Als up pretty nicely yesterday.
Nice to see that this game will be on in prime time in the east which should draw some excellent TV numbers.
We haven't won in these parts since the summer of 02. I've said it over and over and stopped heading over to Vancouver to watch them lose about five years ago. However I have a good feeling this year and they have to win before we move back to Ontario. Oh well here's hoping and we'll be there.
Maybe they won't win until you move back to Ontario.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1argoholic
Toronto will put up more of a fight than the team based out of Montreal did yesterday. Look for a close, hard hitting game. Nice to be looking forward to a big game this early in the season as an Argo fan.
Potential Grey Cup matchup.
I hope the team flies out like some do 2 days before to get use to the time zone.
Still though it will be 4pm eastern, a positive for us.
Anyway a quick start is needed.
I'd hope that the Argos come out stronger than the Alouettes did yesterday. The last two games out there have been afternoon games and it did us very little although there is obviously a significant difference between this year's team and ours.
It'll be 4 Pacific, so 7 Eastern.Quote:
Originally Posted by argotom
They can talk all they want about the time zone meaning nothing. I remember dragging my arse around for a couple months after moving here. I was always tired. Funny how Hamilton does well here though.
we can do this!
we are getting better each week!
once we click on ALL cylinders.................look out!
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Originally Posted by Argo-Les
Welcome aboard, Argo-Les. And please stop being so negative.
I just looked out my window and saw four guys on horses heading west.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1argoholic
Jeebus! Good luck Argos! You win this one, and a statement has been made. I think the receiving core is in place, and the running game is solid. Defense will win this one!
Playing the game at 4 PM Pacific (7 PM Eastern) means that the jet lag effect should be less of a factor than would be the case if they played at 7 PM Pacific. However, they still have to deal with the high noise level of the closed stadium (Buono always wants the stadium roof closed even on the sunniest of days to increase the noise level when opponents have the ball, although he is sometimes overruled by senior management).Quote:
Originally Posted by argolio
Even with the roof open, it sounded pretty loud on Saturday. You are right about Wally though.Quote:
Originally Posted by jerrym
think this will be the 100th Greycup match
BC made our offense look pitiful in week 6, partly because they overwhelmed our OL. We've made a few changes since then and our protection has been somewhat better. We've also been going 2TE more frequently, both for blocking and receiving, and that could help too.
We've now had a chance to evaluate almost all of the receivers on our roster; we'll be fielding an optimized lineup going forward, including a couple of guys BC hasn't seen this year.
I'd like to believe that we'll do well after the emotional high of sweeping Hamilton, but the last time we faced BC we were coming off the high of beating the Alouettes in Montreal - and that didn't help. Perhaps BC will be complacent after embarassing the Alouettes and claiming first place overall.
Having said all that, we'll probably lose. This is the toughest game remaining on our schedule, and they've been better than us this year. We'll lose on Saturday, but then we'll punish the Als (again) eight days later en route to winning the division.
well next 3 game are away games (hope to win 2 of 3) but then from there we will have 4-1 Home games to close up the season
I'm hoping for much improved offense from the last meeting with the Lions, and better defensive intensity. We'll see if the improved OL has really improved. The constant personnel shuffling of Jones' defensive schemes sometimes seems to have some negative effect on intensity and concentration. We'll just wait and see !
I give the edge to both defenses in a close game, but I think the Lions will squeek it out. That's OK ! I'd rather wear the underdog tag and have the revenge factor going for us, when we face them in the GC.
I hope there are still decent seats left, when I get to the ticket office. Anyone know what the presale is like ? Our plane arrives from Seoul at about 12:40 - then need to get downtown and buy some tickets. Lions would sell me tickets but insisted that they could only send them to my Canadian address, and couldn't prebuy and pick them up. Tickets in Kelowna and us in Vancouver did not seem to quite work.
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Originally Posted by D-Gap-Willie
That sounds odd to me, usually they have a Will Call booth setup at the game. I'd assume there will still be tons of tickets available.
Are you trying to purchase off of ticketmaster? All I do nowadays is just use the TicketFast feature that e-mails the tickets to me so I can print them off.
The Lions v Al's game last saturday was blacked out in the greater Vancouver area...anyone know if this game is?
I would be attending the game, however me and Lil Bec are getting married on saturday at 1 pm, ive got cable access our or venue, and if the game isnt blacked out, it will be playing.
I think our defence will give Lulay a rough go of it, and if Ricky is on the mark, this game is winnable. Our special teams and O-line have been our weakest link so far this season. If they can rise up i can feel the doubleblue getting 2 pts.
I believe Saturday's game will be blacked out in Vancouver. This will be the Lions 3rd straight blackout, of 5 in a row they said. The game will still be available on TSN HD or live streamed on your computer. TSN also archives all CFL games online in their video library and they're usually available about 90 minutes after the game, in HD (a great option as long as you haven't heard the score.)Quote:
Originally Posted by argonaut11xx
We will be buying tickets day of. I see no problem.
Good luck Argonaut11xx. I got it right this time. You still have plenty of time as it's a 4pm start.
We head over tomorrow night for a three night city fix. It'll be a huge bonus if they can finally pull out a victory. Although they swept us in 04 and then what happened in Ottawa? I could handle a loss now if the results were the same at Grey Cup 100. Still want a big win though.
Unfortunately, I can't use ticketmater from the farm - it always times out. I was trying to buy on the phone for Will Call since time is tight for us -- phoned direct to 589-ROAR.Quote:
Originally Posted by argofan87
We'll be fine as long as the plane doesn't arrive late.
Prediction:
ricky ray goes 20 for 24 for 121 yards ... captain check-down is playing his favourite type of defence to make its stats look great and team loses. Argos lose in yet another on the wet coast .... look for a ton of 4 yard receptions. Lions 33 argo 10
Prediction : Argos 18 , Lions 13. Our Defense takes it to the next level.
The Ray bashing continues I see. They've already won as many games as they won all last year. I just don't get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qman
Ray is a damn good quarterback, and yes, he uses the check down process, but many quarterbacks in the CFL are not good enough at checking down to get the job done. Not every check down process results in a check down ( last resort) completion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qman
I don't know enough of the Argo offence to know how many 'reads' Ray is designed to take on each play -- do you know ? It may be that some plays are designed to go to the check down receiver after only one or two reads - compensates for ineffective blocking, or takes advantage of motion or ??
What is "his favorite type of defence " ? -- A QB who is good at the check-down process plays best against man coverage - I doubt the Lions will play mostly man coverage.
All that said, I'd rather have a "four yard reception" than a sack.
It's improving every week, but it's not there yet - give it a chance!
Prediction: Lions 19 Argos 17 -- sorry it's the defending GC champs in their house.
Ray with his composure will give this team a chance to win week in & week out. This team, led by "Captain Checkdown" is poised to clinch a home playoff spot.
Great post (except for the game prediction :D ).Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Gap-Willie
These comments about checking down are so ridiclous. It appears to me as if many on here would prefer he force the ball down field even if there is nothing there. Ray knows how to play the position as well as anyone in the league, and IMO, is doing a great job, especially considering the struggles of the o-line this year.
I strongly suspect that that individual is an Edmonton fan who has his own beef with Ray from years past.Quote:
Originally Posted by AngeloV
Well I say we find him and beat the living snot out of him. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ArgoRavi
Please note: If anyone can't see I'm kidding with the above comment, they need serious medical evaluation.
Just one more sleep until the annual beer shower for me and my Argo jersey. I hope this new one that I bought at the Double Blue Bash last year is moisture repellant.
I've been going to Montreal to see the boys for the last 5 years, and they didn't win for me until this year. The last win I saw in Montreal was the 2004 East Final.
that huntley return was hilarious
Good thing we didn't cut Ahmad Carroll