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  1. Given that it is late in the afternoon on a...

    Given that it is late in the afternoon on a Friday and nothing has been heard from the Argos org today, I assume we are now waiting to see if Kelly is on the field when main camp opens on Sunday. As...
  2. You would feel they are maybe a liar or unstable,...

    You would feel they are maybe a liar or unstable, but you wouldn't have any feelings about the employer's duty to provide a safe work environment?
  3. Power is not only about money. Kelly had a low...

    Power is not only about money. Kelly had a low salary in 2022, but he was clearly and openly seen by some high up in the org as a star in the making. That said, at $67k or thereabouts, he was still...
  4. A lot of this shitshow is a result of a bad mgmt...

    A lot of this shitshow is a result of a bad mgmt structure. The club president pays little attention to the club, and brought in as GM a guy who is beloved by fans but has many other non-Argo things...
  5. I have to disagree with this. It's not Pelley...

    I have to disagree with this. It's not Pelley whose feet should be put to the fire, it's the guy who has been this team's president for six-plus years, Bill Manning. As badly as Pinball fumbled this...
  6. I don't cheer for thr league. I cheer for the...

    I don't cheer for thr league. I cheer for the Argos. And i want the team I cheer for to (a) do the right thing or at least (b) not do the wrong thing. IMO cutting Kelly would be the right thing. And...
  7. No, they should be cutting ties to him entirely.

    No, they should be cutting ties to him entirely.
  8. I'm just guessing it would be Hunter Raquet and...

    I'm just guessing it would be Hunter Raquet and whomever is the USports intern.
  9. First of all, as has been noted before, there are...

    First of all, as has been noted before, there are no "charges" to "dismiss." There is a civil suit which, if it goes to trial, will be contested and decided by a judge. The plaintiff will either win...
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    News out of first day of Ticats rookie camp: Bo...

    News out of first day of Ticats rookie camp: Bo is in a walking boot, and Jordan Williams has retired.
  11. I doubt the Argos will start the season 0-and-5,...

    I doubt the Argos will start the season 0-and-5, but even if they do, I will support the CFL's decision. Just as I would support a decision by MLSE to release Kelly.
  12. Cornelius would be my first choice, but I'd have...

    Cornelius would be my first choice, but I'd have no issues with Arbuckle being brought in. I also want to see what Scott can do. He didn't play much last season, and is not highly regarded by some...
  13. Pinball is the GM. Manning is the president....

    Pinball is the GM. Manning is the president. Shewfelt is the VP Business Ops. There are others in the mgmt structure. What any of them knew as this was unfolding is one of the big unknowns. If any of...
  14. Understood. The comment was not aimed at mods but...

    Understood. The comment was not aimed at mods but at those who create multiple threads on the same subject.
  15. Speaking only for myself, I want no part of this...

    Speaking only for myself, I want no part of this guy on the field or even around the team. Redemption stories are a nice concept in theory, and sometimes they actually happen. But I have no faith in...
  16. Extremely doubtful, IMO. I sincerely hope...

    Extremely doubtful, IMO.



    I sincerely hope not. It's time to cut ties with him, write off the $300k bonus he received and re-establish the kind of culture that Pinball touted when he became GM....
  17. Surely all of this can be contained within a...

    Surely all of this can be contained within a single thread? (Such as the one that has existed since the allegations first surfaced.)
  18. Nine games, minimum. ...

    Nine games, minimum.

    https://3downnation.com/2024/05/07/cfl-suspends-toronto-argonauts-qb-chad-kelly-for-minimum-of-nine-games/
  19. Glenn was OK, but he's no Hall of Famer in my...

    Glenn was OK, but he's no Hall of Famer in my eyes. With the way OK guys like Dressler are getting in these days, though, he'll probably get in eventually.
  20. Hank Ilesic (played 1977-1995, plus three short...

    Hank Ilesic (played 1977-1995, plus three short stints in 1998, 2001 and 2005) was inducted in 2018.

    Bob Cameron (played 1977-2002) was inducted in 2010.

    I can see Cameron going in first, but...
  21. But who are "they"? We don't even know who the...

    But who are "they"? We don't even know who the selectors are now, much less back when Ilesic was not in the Hall.
  22. Obviously we don't know the details of any...

    Obviously we don't know the details of any contract, but it seems likely that any salary increase he received -- and I assume he received a sizeable increase -- took effect in 2024. We also don't...
  23. The CFHOF has the least transparent selection...

    The CFHOF has the least transparent selection process of any Hall of Fame. We don't know who the selectors are, what criteria they use, or really anything other than who gets announced each year....
  24. It was also brought up earlier that Dinwiddie...

    It was also brought up earlier that Dinwiddie likely received a sizeable raise, and I bet Vince Magri did as well. Managing the ops cap is at least as challenging as managing the SMS. As soon as a...
  25. Here is my annual rant about the Hall, which is...

    Here is my annual rant about the Hall, which is trending strongly towards rewarding longevity over actual dominance on the field.

    SJ Green and Weston Dressler were both excellent receivers for...
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