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    The Toronto Raptors Thread

    I was reading some comments over the last few days about how the Raptors defense had improved. By a score-by-score basis in this young season I suppose you could make that conclusion, but you had to keep in mind that the Raptors had played the Cleveland Cavaliers twice and they are a team that is arguably worse than the Raptors! Yes it'll probably come as a surprise to the haters that there are worse teams in the NBA than the Raptors. Anyways, what I'm saying don't conclude the Raptors' defense has improved until they actually match-up with legitimate teams like the Heat, Bulls or Celtics.

    Also, I know 1/2 of you don't care if the Blue Jays and Raptors move to Wichita Falls, your feeling are well known on the subject so if you don't have anything to say besides the usual then please don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argofan87 View Post
    I was reading some comments over the last few days about how the Raptors defense had improved. By a score-by-score basis in this young season I suppose you could make that conclusion, but you had to keep in mind that the Raptors had played the Cleveland Cavaliers twice and they are a team that is arguably worse than the Raptors! Yes it'll probably come as a surprise to the haters that there are worse teams in the NBA than the Raptors. Anyways, what I'm saying don't conclude the Raptors' defense has improved until they actually match-up with legitimate teams like the Heat, Bulls or Celtics.

    Also, I know 1/2 of you don't care if the Blue Jays and Raptors move to Wichita Falls, your feeling are well known on the subject so if you don't have anything to say besides the usual then please don't.
    The Raptors have had a soft schedule so far, haven't they? I know that they beat the Knicks but they haven't been good in a while, and as you said, they beat Cleveland twice which is no great accomplishment. The Raptors did lose to New Jersey last night and I didn't think that the Nets had been good in a while either. The true test will certainly be when they play some of the elite teams rather than the bottom-feeders that they have mostly been playing. Also, one thing about the NBA is that the good teams seem to stay on top for a long time while the lousy teams, like the Raptors, tend to be bad for a long time. At least that is my perception of that league.
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    You can point to any of the big four sports leagues I think and say that there are teams that are perennial winners and perennial losers, Ravi. It isn't restricted to the NBA in my opinion.

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    haha....guess you guys missed tonights game?

    raps lost by 35

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    There will more then likely be more games like that this year for the Raptors.

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    Why doesn't this team move to the States. They just waste time on the sports highlight or when it comes to the Craptors,lowlight shows.

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    What did I say about not having nothing nice to say?

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    It's been an interesting season thus far. Aside from the ugly ones (the Sixers game I missed, and last night), the rest of the matches I've seen have been pretty entertaining. Despite his inconsistencies, we are going to need Bayless back soon in order to rest Calderon. Old man Carter is a solid defender, but the offense rarely looks good when he's on the court.

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    From what I have seen, they are keeping the opponents scoring down (mostly below 100), but don't seem to score so much either. I also think Bargnani went out yesterday with an injury. Probably too much Primo pasta weighing him down.

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    did you suggest the raptors move to the states?
    seriously? were you here when VC was in his heyday?
    Those games at the ACC were some of the best sports entertainment Toronto has ever got, the ACC was always rocking.
    The raptors are rebuilding now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcwagz View Post
    The raptors are rebuilding now.
    Haven't they been rebuilding for the last five years?
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    They've been rebuilding since the 2008-2009 season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    Haven't they been rebuilding for the last five years?
    no
    when they had chris bosh they were trying to win

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    Colangelo has seemingly just "woke up" in the past year or so and realized the team needs to be re-built properly. When Bosh was around, he brought in a few names with the intent on getting into the play-offs and making a run. I think when he signed O'Neal, he claimed that addition would make them a top-4 East team with hopes of getting to the conference finals. The next year, he made some more moves to add depth to the squad (namely Turk, but also guys like Jack and Bellinelli) and complement Bosh in hopes to keep him here. I'm just glad I was too busy with university studies to give their second-half collapse much attention.

    The 2010-11 offseason also showed some intent of forming a team that could be a playoff contender by bringing in Barbosa and nearly acquiring Tyson Chandler. This year he just stuck to bringing in short-term veteran contracts, and seems to be asking for patience. With the Jays and Leafs in large playoff droughts, it's getting awful tough for me to be patient, but I understand the need to build through the draft.

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    The Raptors were heading in the right direction during the 2006-2007 season it seemed. They had surprisingly won the Atlantic Division and Sam Mitchell was the NBA Coach of the Year. Although, they made the playoffs in 2007-2008 they never replicated that success. I think it was the 2009-2010 season where the Raptors were heading for a playoff spot and seemed solid, but ended up fading badly during the second half and then Chris Bosh left the team after that thus pushing them into a full blown rebuild. It's clear that the significant problem with the Raptors is retaining their stars (Carter, McGrady, Bosh, etc.), but also the Raptors were never able to give them a complimentary player. Lamond Murray was oft-injured and Jermaine O'Neal and Turkoglu didn't work out in Toronto.

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    The games have been getting uglier as the season moves on. We need Bargnani to get healty to spark the offense, but this isn't the season we need to rush him back into the lineup. I wonder how Bayless is doing?

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    the raptors cant seem to score more than 80, it's quite sad.

    Derozan seems to be regressing, its quite worrysome

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    Bumping a thread that hasn't been posted in for nearly two years, but the Raptors are playing some descent basketball of late within a weak conference. Seems that trading Rudy Gay has had a positive effect on the team as it has allowed guys like Kyle Lowry and Terrence Ross to break out of their shells a little. We'll see if it keeps up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by argofan87 View Post
    Bumping a thread that hasn't been posted in for nearly two years, but the Raptors are playing some descent basketball of late within a weak conference. Seems that trading Rudy Gay has had a positive effect on the team as it has allowed guys like Kyle Lowry and Terrence Ross to break out of their shells a little. We'll see if it keeps up.
    The fact that no one has posted in two years and no one has responded in relation to your post tells you all you need to know about the level of interest that exists for the Raptors and the NBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deerkeeper View Post
    The fact that no one has posted in two years and no one has responded in relation to your post tells you all you need to know about the level of interest that exists for the Raptors and the NBA.
    I follow the Raptors, just like the Leafs. Not at the same as level as I do the Argos, I just don't see the need to post anything.
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