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    Congratulations to the Raptors for making it to the Final 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by argofan87 View Post
    Congratulations to the Raptors for making it to the Final 4.
    +1 Did it the hard way, but good for them.

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    Steve Simmons wrote about seeing DeMarre Carroll and Cory Joseph in the casino at 2am Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. To me, this is total BS journalism. Why is this relevant for an 8:30 pm start on Wednesday? I can understand if it was an afternoon game, but it wasn't. Simmons sometimes can be a really good writer, but IMO it's write ups like this that bring down his reputation. Way too TMZ'ish for me.

    When speaking on the Naylor and Landsberg morning show, he also seemed to pat himself on the back for telling coach Casey about it privately, rather than in front of the rest of the media after the game. Telling the coach on these guys, when he truly has no vested interest is also a "rat" move.

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    I agree AV; this is a bit ridiculous.
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    What was Simmons doing there at 2am? Athletes have their own pre-game schedule/ritual as well as being a late game. No concerns unless they came to the game under some sort of influence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Steve Simmons wrote about seeing DeMarre Carroll and Cory Joseph in the casino at 2am Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. To me, this is total BS journalism. Why is this relevant for an 8:30 pm start on Wednesday? I can understand if it was an afternoon game, but it wasn't. Simmons sometimes can be a really good writer, but IMO it's write ups like this that bring down his reputation. Way too TMZ'ish for me.

    When speaking on the Naylor and Landsberg morning show, he also seemed to pat himself on the back for telling coach Casey about it privately, rather than in front of the rest of the media after the game. Telling the coach on these guys, when he truly has no vested interest is also a "rat" move.

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    I agree, AV. With the game not starting until 8:30 pm that night, being out at a casino at 2 am is hardly news-worthy IMO. I don't see it as having played a role in their defeat that night.
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    I did not expect the Raptors to beat Cleveland, however, I still consider this a successful season for them. They went 56-26 and made it farther than they have in the past. But, this is no time to sit on their laurels because there are teams in the East such as Detroit and Boston that are on their way up. Masai must find a way to ensure that this team can be in a better position to complete with a team like Cleveland in the future because I think the goal next year should be the NBA Finals. But, nevertheless congratulations to the Raptors on a great season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by argofan87 View Post
    I think the goal next year should be the NBA Finals. But, nevertheless congratulations to the Raptors on a great season.
    If that is there goal, they need to start by getting rid of Lowry. I get that he played 3 good games in the last series, but the last 3 playoffs overall, he has not been what you need out of your point guard. He doesn't make the players around him better, and he is brutal defensively. Add to the fact that at 30, he is probably on the way down and I honestly don't see the team getting better with him as their floor general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Steve Simmons wrote about seeing DeMarre Carroll and Cory Joseph in the casino at 2am Tuesday night/Wednesday morning. To me, this is total BS journalism. Why is this relevant for an 8:30 pm start on Wednesday? I can understand if it was an afternoon game, but it wasn't. Simmons sometimes can be a really good writer, but IMO it's write ups like this that bring down his reputation. Way too TMZ'ish for me.

    When speaking on the Naylor and Landsberg morning show, he also seemed to pat himself on the back for telling coach Casey about it privately, rather than in front of the rest of the media after the game. Telling the coach on these guys, when he truly has no vested interest is also a "rat" move.

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    I wrote in some surprise about this in another thread and stated it probably wasn't a good idea before a playoff game, but you're right on here. Crap journalism, and NBA players are basically night shift workers. For an 8:30 p.m. playoff start, they would probably report for work around 5, if even that early.

    So if you say they work from roughly 4- midnight, or 5-1 a.m, then being out at 2 is no big deal. How do we know they weren't walking back to the hotel room to sleep?

    I mean if it was 5 a.m. and Carroll had a Jack & Coke in one hand and a cigarette in another while yelling, "here come the dice!" at the craps table, that might be a story, but this isn't.

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    The Raptors will likely win their 50+ games this year, but it is clear that (unless things change drastically) that they still do not possess the ability to defeat Cleveland or Golden State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argofans.com View Post
    The Raptors will likely win their 50+ games this year, but it is clear that (unless things change drastically) that they still do not possess the ability to defeat Cleveland or Golden State.
    Pretty much what was said at the beginning of the season. When the team is on, they are the third best in the league. Next to impossible to beat Golden State with a team of All-Stars. Cleveland can be beat. Last year, the difference was Lebron. Put him on the Raps and they win that series, so the teams are very close. Hope for a Nancy Kerrigan to his knee and they win this year! As for the future, we can only hope Wiggans becomes an elite star and the team uses their hometown card to get him here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    If that is there goal, they need to start by getting rid of Lowry. I get that he played 3 good games in the last series, but the last 3 playoffs overall, he has not been what you need out of your point guard. He doesn't make the players around him better, and he is brutal defensively. Add to the fact that at 30, he is probably on the way down and I honestly don't see the team getting better with him as their floor general.
    As the Raptors season looks to be over, this is now the general consensus of the hard core fans. U called it, bravo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    As the Raptors season looks to be over, this is now the general consensus of the hard core fans. U called it, bravo.
    Time to retool, simply not good enough.
    Show the coach the door as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    As the Raptors season looks to be over, this is now the general consensus of the hard core fans. U called it, bravo.
    Lowry is an ok PG. Problem is, I don't think he himself knows what he is. He is neither a great scorer or distributor of the ball. At that position, you at least need to be excellent at one if your are going to be elite, not just pretty good at both. The team themselves do these guys no favour either. The manufactured attempt to have their fans vote them into the All Star game, to me is just wrong. I think going to the All Star game makes some players think they are better than they actually are.

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    Show the coach the door as well.
    I don't agree with that. I think that Casey is a very good coach. The talent level isn't what some believe it is.
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    I think Lowry was a perfect fit for an ok Raptors team after a couple of bad years. But now that the Raptors are actually getting serious about having a good playoff run, its clear that Lowry won't be the one to carry the team to the promised land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    I think Lowry was a perfect fit for an ok Raptors team after a couple of bad years. But now that the Raptors are actually getting serious about having a good playoff run, its clear that Lowry won't be the one to carry the team to the promised land.
    Lowry may not want to return and if he does would command max money and term ($35 million/year for 5 years).
    Wear and tear plus age will be a factor as well, we may have seen the best from him so declining performance is a real possibility for the life of his contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    Time to retool, simply not good enough.
    Show the coach the door as well.
    Raptors should look down the 401 at London Lightnings HC, Canadian Kyle Julius. He was just named NBL COY and deservedly so.

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    The Raptors have an outstanding bench, which is a huge part of why they are just a game back of the first seed in the east. You look at VanVleet, Poetl, Siakam or Miles and they all give a lift to the team off the bench. I believe that they can compete with the other teams in the east in a playoff series if DeMar and Kyle get their act together playoff-wise. They'll also have to see if Cleveland continues to implode (they're wheeling and dealing on deadline day). It is unlikely in my mind though that they can compete with the best teams in the western conference.
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