Toronto Maple Leafs

[timlb01]

Trust me...the lottery is fixed. Toronto will NEVER win the NHL draft lottery. They had 4 of the last 10 balls in this years McDavid lottery, and Edmonton only had 1, yet Edmonton won.

So why would the NHL fix it for Edmonton? Makes no sense.... If they were fixing it it would have gone to a big market US team.....Edmonton....

[AngeloV]

So why would the NHL fix it for Edmonton? Makes no sense.... If they were fixing it it would have gone to a big market US team.....Edmonton....

OK, you got me there. I'm just a sad Leafs fan looking for someone to blame.

To keep with the theme in the double blue room, I say blame Milanovich.

[timlb01]

OK, you got me there. I'm just a sad Leafs fan looking for someone to blame.

To keep with the theme in the double blue room, I say blame Milanovich.

I love hockey and the Leafs but I don't anticipate watch much hockey for about 3 years. The best hockey was the Doug Gilmour years and that was short lived. I drives me nuts when you see teams like Montreal who look like they are in a position to be dominate for many years again.

The Leafs drive me nuts too as everyone knew the salary cap was coming... why didn't they buy all the best managers / coaches / scouts etc then. Why did we wait 10 years. If you want to go back even further they should have given Scotty Bowman a blank check and we probably would have won something then. I think the current direction looks promising but it could go south with that many people making decisions.

[1argoholic]

This year will be worse then a yoyo. Win one, lose six, win two, lose three, OT loss, lose two. Tough stuff to watch really when there's so many other channels. This isn't the day of four channels on a black and white tv topped with rabbit ears. I really hope they continue to suck and get number 1 who's certain to be that American kid playing in Europe this year, Matthews. He's got all the tools to build a team around.

[Will]

The Maple Leafs might not be a very good team, but they seem to be playing hard most nights for Babcock which is what I figured would happen. Leaf fans should be encouraged by some of the prospects in the system here. The Marlies, in particular, have had an excellent year so far.

[PullTogether73]

I'm always curious about something with Maple Leafs fans, so I will ask it here...

Are you a hockey fan, or a Maple Leafs fan?
Or, to put it another way...If an existing NHL team or an NHL expansion team was moved to Toronto, would you consider following that team instead of the Maple Leafs?

I just don't get why the Maple Leafs have such a devoted, masochistic fan base.
I believe it is because they are the only NHL game in town, and that they have a long history, which had success MANY decades ago.
Currently, there is nothing to like about this team.
No playoffs after a full regular season in over a decade. No star players.

I jumped off that sinking ship in 2002, latched on to another team in 2010, and have enjoyed hockey much more since then.
There is more entertaining hockey to be seen in the local OHL teams imo. (1argoholic would likely agree with this. Go Petes!)

So, why the torturous love affair with the Leafs?
Punish them for their ineptitude by walking away I say!

[T-Bone]

I'm always curious about something with Maple Leafs fans, so I will ask it here...

Are you a hockey fan, or a Maple Leafs fan?
Or, to put it another way...If an existing NHL team or an NHL expansion team was moved to Toronto, would you consider following that team instead of the Maple Leafs?

I just don't get why the Maple Leafs have such a devoted, masochistic fan base.
I believe it is because they are the only NHL game in town, and that they have a long history, which had success MANY decades ago.
Currently, there is nothing to like about this team.
No playoffs after a full regular season in over a decade. No star players.

So, why the torturous love affair with the Leafs?

I'm a casual Leafs fan but I wouldn't cheer for a new Toronto team.

Hypothetically if the CFL put another team in Toronto would you jump ship from the Argos to support that team?

Punish them for their ineptitude by walking away I say!

I wonder if people were giving the same advice to Argos fans between 1953-1982.

I jumped off that sinking ship in 2002, latched on to another team in 2010, and have enjoyed hockey much more since then.
There is more entertaining hockey to be seen in the local OHL teams imo. (1argoholic would likely agree with this. Go Petes!)

To each their own. Glad you found some solace.

[PullTogether73]

I'm a casual Leafs fan but I wouldn't cheer for a new Toronto team.

Hypothetically if the CFL put another team in Toronto would you jump ship from the Argos to support that team?

If the Argos were making money hand over fist while rewarding me with a dismal record over almost 50 years, then yes.

I wonder if people were giving the same advice to Argos fans between 1953-1982.

Valid point. But I believe there is a big difference between 29 years and 48 years (and counting). And the Argonauts were not making money hand over fist.

[Will]

I have been cheering for the Maple Leafs for most of my life. No sense stopping now and hopping off the bandwagon.

[PullTogether73]

I was listening to "Leafs Lunch" on TSN1050 yesterday for a bit (which is unusual since I usually can't stand Bryan Hayes and Jeff O'Neill).
They were discussing greatest Leafs defensemen ever, since last night was Dion Phaneuf's 400th game as a Maple Leaf.
They were shocked and disappointed to discover that the Leafs haven't really had any defensemen of note after the top two in terms of tenure.

Tim Horton - Hall of Famer
Borje Salming - Hall of Famer
Then...
Thomas Kaberle
Bobby Baun
And sundry other "greats" from Leafs history.
Phaneuf
Todd Gill
Dave Ellett
Ian Turnbull (a personal favourite when I was growing up and a fan of the Leafs)
Jaime Macoun.

I sometimes wonder how I stayed a Leafs fan for so long before I woke up from the stupor that is being a Leafs fan.

[AngeloV]

Valid point. But I believe there is a big difference between 29 years and 48 years (and counting). And the Argonauts were not making money hand over fist.

It can be argued that 29 years in a 9 team league is considerably a bigger failure than the majority of the 48 being in a 21-30 team league. Probability supports this theory.

I was listening to "Leafs Lunch" on TSN1050 yesterday for a bit (which is unusual since I usually can't stand Bryan Hayes and Jeff O'Neill).
They were discussing greatest Leafs defensemen ever, since last night was Dion Phaneuf's 400th game as a Maple Leaf.
They were shocked and disappointed to discover that the Leafs haven't really had any defensemen of note after the top two in terms of tenure.

Tim Horton - Hall of Famer
Borje Salming - Hall of Famer
Then...
Thomas Kaberle
Bobby Baun
And sundry other "greats" from Leafs history.
Phaneuf
Todd Gill
Dave Ellett
Ian Turnbull (a personal favourite when I was growing up and a fan of the Leafs)
Jaime Macoun.

I sometimes wonder how I stayed a Leafs fan for so long before I woke up from the stupor that is being a Leafs fan.

Ian Turnbull could have been great if he ever gave a f*ck

[1argoholic]

What about Jim McKenny? haha. Speaking of which what happened to him. Is he still on City?

[Will]

What about Jim McKenny? haha. Speaking of which what happened to him. Is he still on City?

I don't think so.

[ArgoRavi]

What about Jim McKenny? haha. Speaking of which what happened to him. Is he still on City?

He retired a few years ago.

[R.J]

New logo and uniforms coming next season for the Leafs.
http://www.tsn.ca/report-leafs-to-un...-year-1.408561

[Will]

New logo and uniforms coming next season for the Leafs.
http://www.tsn.ca/report-leafs-to-un...-year-1.408561

At the risk of sounding superstitious, I think this is a great idea. The present Maple Leaf logo was introduced in 1970 and while the style of uniform has changed several times in that span the logo itself has not. The common denominator in all of this is that the Leafs haven't won a cup with the present logo.

[R.J]

At the risk of sounding superstitious, I think this is a great idea. The present Maple Leaf logo was introduced in 1970 and while the style of uniform has changed several times in that span the logo itself has not. The common denominator in all of this is that the Leafs haven't won a cup with the present logo.

A new logo isn't going to fix that lol.

[Will]

A new logo isn't going to fix that lol.

Can't a man wish?

[R.J]

Can't a man wish?

lol read my signature.

[Will]

Hearing the #Leafs will host the Bridgestone Winter Classic, Jan. 1, 2017, at BMO Field vs #NewYorkRangers as part of their Centennial.

— Howard Berger (@Berger_BYTES) December 14, 2015