Toronto Maple Leafs

**Will** · 05-21-2015, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by 1argoholic

The reporter that asked the question live said he had a tweet from Freedman. That would be Rogers.

Yeah, but we don't know if that was the first reporter to break the story. I know that Dreger and McKenzie were both on the story yesterday morning. I know it sounds like I'm defending Rogers here, but I just don't buy into the conspiracy that Rogers deliberately broke the Babcock story to sabotage the Argos announcement. I don't think Dreger and McKenzie would've sat on the story.

**ArgoRavi** · 05-21-2015, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by argofan87

Yeah, but we don't know if that was the first reporter to break the story. I know that Dreger and McKenzie were both on the story yesterday morning. I know it sounds like I'm defending Rogers here, but I just don't buy into the conspiracy that Rogers deliberately broke the Babcock story to sabotage the Argos announcement. I don't think Dreger and McKenzie would've sat on the story.

Apparently, Dreger tweeted a few seconds before Friedman. Shoalts, who is often on Bob McCown's show, didn't need to start asking about it then and there though.

**Will** · 05-21-2015, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by ArgoRavi

Apparently, Dreger tweeted a few seconds before Friedman. Shoalts, who is often on Bob McCown's show, didn't need to start asking about it then and there though.

No he did not.

**argonaut11xx** · 05-21-2015, 07:26 PM

Good pickup by the Leafs......and maybe good news for the Argo's....

Babcock is competitive and will improve this team, hopefully either just barely making the playoff's, or finishing close therefore getting a crapping draft pick for 8 more years....hahahahaha....

Im a Leafs fan, but really am pissed that the big Argo announcement was destroyed by that idiot reporter, who did quote another idiot reporter freedman's tweet...

**Will** · 05-22-2015, 09:31 AM

The Maple Leafs could still use a few years at the very bottom in order to have access to the best potential draft picks. Finishing just out of the playoffs would result in a pick in the #10-#14 range, which would be counter-productive for the next 2-3 years. That being said, Babcock didn't come here to tank.

**ArgoRavi** · 05-22-2015, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by argofan87

The Maple Leafs could still use a few years at the very bottom in order to have access to the best potential draft picks. Finishing just out of the playoffs would result in a pick in the #10-#14 range, which would be counter-productive for the next 2-3 years. That being said, Babcock didn't come here to tank.

I have always found this to be a problem for the Leafs - they have been consistently mediocre to bad for the last 48 years but have rarely been awful enough to get the best draft picks. Of course, the bigger issue is that they have drafted horribly much more often than not over this time span.

**Will** · 08-27-2015, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by ArgoRavi

I have always found this to be a problem for the Leafs - they have been consistently mediocre to bad for the last 48 years but have rarely been awful enough to get the best draft picks. Of course, the bigger issue is that they have drafted horribly much more often than not over this time span.

I think the only season the Leafs got the #1 pick was when they drafted Wendel Clark. Now I love Wendel Clark like any Leaf fan should, and injuries had a factor but he didn't quite have the impact one could expect from a #1 pick.

As for the Leafs this year, they aren't going to be very good. All I want though is for them to compete and show some sort of work ethic.

**AngeloV** · 08-27-2015, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by argofan87

I think the only season the Leafs got the #1 pick was when they drafted Wendel Clark. Now I love Wendel Clark like any Leaf fan should, and injuries had a factor but he didn't quite have the impact one could expect from a #1 pick.

As for the Leafs this year, they aren't going to be very good. All I want though is for them to compete and show some sort of work ethic.

Clark had a lot of impact the 2 years they went to the semi's with Pat Burns as coach, and then they parlayed him into Mats Sundin for the next 12 or so years. I would say that pick turned out quite all right.

**argonaut11xx** · 08-28-2015, 10:29 AM

The Toronto Maple Leafs.....the BEST front office staff in the NHL

"players?...players???...who needs players"

**argolio** · 08-28-2015, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by argonaut11xx

The Toronto Maple Leafs.....the BEST front office staff in the NHL

"players?...players???...who needs players"

They're heading into year one of what they're trying to do. Check back in five years to see if it works.

**1argoholic** · 09-22-2015, 12:59 PM

To almost not look silly. haha. Well at least we swept Ottawa in split preseason games. Just had a hard time getting into watching yet.

**argonaut11xx** · 09-22-2015, 01:29 PM

If you think the blue jays bandwagon is full, wait 2-3 years and watch what happens when the Leafs win a few playoff series.

**T-Bone** · 09-22-2015, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by argonaut11xx

If you think the blue jays bandwagon is full, wait 2-3 years and watch what happens when the Leafs win a few playoff series.

I was actually having a conversation about this with a friend. There appears to be a lot of Leafs haters in Toronto, more than Jays haters. Plus, the Leafs don't get the same national support (It helps there is only one Canadian baseball team.) that the Jays do. So I wonder which bandwagon is fuller.

**AngeloV** · 09-22-2015, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by T-Bone

I was actually having a conversation about this with a friend. There appears to be a lot of Leafs haters in Toronto, more than Jays haters. Plus, the Leafs don't get the same national support (It helps there is only one Canadian baseball team.) that the Jays do. So I wonder which bandwagon is fuller.

It's just fashionable for people to crap all over the Leafs. Just a bunch of yuppies trying to act cool. Guaranteed they would be the most popular team around if they were a playoff team.

**Argo57** · 09-23-2015, 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

It's just fashionable for people to crap all over the Leafs. Just a bunch of yuppies trying to act cool. Guaranteed they would be the most popular team around if they were a playoff team.

They deserve all the crap they get Angelo.
However if and when they actually get to the playoffs and have a decent run Leafs fever will take over.
The Leafs are #1 in Toronto and they know it sold out tickets (with huge waiting list) huge merchandizing $$ and mediocre to shit management for the last 5 decades with minimal backlash=life's good for them!!

**PullTogether73** · 09-23-2015, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by argonaut11xx

If you think the blue jays bandwagon is full, wait 2-3 years and watch what happens when the Leafs win a few playoff series.

Cue the Jim Mora post-game interview tape...

PLAYOFFS!!
Playoffs??
Don't talk to me about playoffs!
I just hope we can win a game.

**Double Dare** · 09-22-2015, 01:53 PM

... and unicorns are going to fly out of my ass.

**T-Bone** · 09-22-2015, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Double Dare

... and unicorns are going to fly out of my ass.

Very insightful. Keep up the good work.

**R.J** · 09-22-2015, 04:05 PM

I hope for the future of the team that the Leafs don't make the playoffs this year. While I'm not a Leaf fan, as a Canucks fan I see very similar issues, both teams need a true slow and steady rebuild.