Local Coverage (or the utter lack thereof)

[R.J]

So much for improved coverage, but it's only the day before a game , how could you expect coverage, perhaps they'll have a generic preview of the game tomorrow from Canadian Press.

I felt it had been better since the new editor came in at the Star - Curtis Rush as well for that matter.


On a side note - Scott Mitchell is essentially transferring from the Calgary Sun/Herald to the Toronto Sun (Post Media) to write about the Jays. CFL loses another good writer.

[ArgoGabe22]

I felt it had been better since the new editor came in at the Star - Curtis Rush as well for that matter.


On a side note - Scott Mitchell is essentially transferring from the Calgary Sun/Herald to the Toronto Sun (Post Media) to write about the Jays. CFL loses another good writer.

And as if the Jays need more coverage. How many beat writers are there now?

[R.J]

And as if the Jays need more coverage. How many beat writers are there now?

Beats me.

[Gill The Thrill]

I felt it had been better since the new editor came in at the Star - Curtis Rush as well for that matter.


On a side note - Scott Mitchell is essentially transferring from the Calgary Sun/Herald to the Toronto Sun (Post Media) to write about the Jays. CFL loses another good writer.

The Calgary Stampeders are the biggest team in the Calgary market not named the "Flames", so I can't believe they wouldn't replace him. If you're talking about the best, or more experienced reporters and writers not on the CFL beat anymore, then that's nothing new. That's been going on for 2 decades.

As much as people did not like the guy, Marty York, during his days as Sports editor at the Globe and Mail, was the last guy to give the Canadian Football League major league press at a national level.

For the record, I thought Marty was great. He did a great job getting scoops, and didn't bow down and kiss up to management types. The problem today is that a guy like Marty is not tolerated in today's, "conflict of interest," sports media where the owners of the network stations or newspapers may own the team, such as is the case with Rogers owning the Blue Jays.

The Blue Jays as an organization, from players to management and executives did not like York, which factored in as a reason why he was ostracized by the Press in Toronto, as much as any supposed plagiarism accusation. That was just done for optics.

[AngeloV]

Then maybe you shouldn't speak for him. Once again you've proven to be self-righteous enough to decide who should be taken seriously or not, as if you're a beacon of righteousness on this site.

If you want to cry for a-holes at the Toronto Star, go ahead, don't let me stop you, but I was sharing a comment with another poster that I agree with about the Star. If you and some of the other bleeding hearts want to cry about my sentiments, then cry away., I'll laugh.

Nice to see Don Cherry writes your material. Surely something to be proud of.

[R.J]

Scott Mitchell didn't work for the CSEC (Flames, Stamps, Roughnecks, and Hitmen Ownership Group), so why would they have to replace him ?

[Gill The Thrill]

Nice to see Don Cherry rights your material. Surely something to be proud of.

I think you mean "writes," not "rights". He doesn't, but if it sounds like something he'd agree with then fine. I don't agree with all his opinions but if this were his opinion, then yes, I'd be proud.

[Gill The Thrill]

Scott Mitchell didn't work for the CSEC (Flames, Stamps, Roughnecks, and Hitmen Ownership Group), so why would they have to replace him ?

No, but wouldn't the Herald or the Calgary Sun replace him by putting another writer on the CFL beat covering the Stamps.

[R.J]

No, but wouldn't the Herald or the Calgary Sun replace him by putting another writer on the CFL beat covering the Stamps.

CFL teams not named the Saskatchewan Roughriders seem to not have many beat writers.

[Will]

He (Mitchell) may be replacing Bob Elliott who recently retired?

[Shipyard]

even with converged newsrooms recently:

winnipeg has 4 sun beat/columnist freisen and penton and WFP its hamilton and billeck
hamilton has two edwards & milton
vancouver has beamish (beat) / macintyre (columnist/beat) both do sun and province -- ulrick used to be province -- moved to lions radio TSN1040 - right before the merged newsrooms

[argolio]

Is that a serious statement, or supposedly a joke?
Sad if it is the former.

Sarcasm.

Cheering for regular people to lose their jobs is the epitome of no class, and the Star employs more than just journalists.

[Gill The Thrill]

Sarcasm.

Cheering for regular people to lose their jobs is the epitome of no class, and the Star employs more than just journalists.

Stick to the topic for starters, oh self-righteous one, but if you're going to stay off-topic, I'll engage. As if you'd care for peoples jobs if push came to shove. If you spew out the garbage that the Star has put out for years, and harassed people and their families for having different views than you and attack all of them irrationally for personal reasons. That's having no class and you don't deserve any sympathy as far as I'm concerned.

When you're losing readership in a left-leaning cesspool that is Toronto, you know you don't know how to run a business, which shouldn't be surprising. I'm just waiting (just watch, we won't even hear about it) for the Star to lobby to the government for funding to stay afloat, as if they're some needed cultural institution. I don't believe privately run pro sports teams run to make a profit should tap into taxpayer funds, so I wouldn't want the same for the Torstar, but you could bet they'll want some favouritism from the Federal Liberals for all the years of favourable treatment and propaganda.

As for those labourers that aren't the journalists, they're the ones who've already been cut back heavily. In a healthy labour market with competition and without the policies trumpeted by the Star, they'll find work in a labour market that'll be more competitive, or they should diversify and do something else for a living. Isn't that what the Star has been spewing for years in why manufacturing and production jobs should make way for carbon taxes, and then you talk about class...you don't know what you're talking about.

You see why this thread should not have been merged. It was meant to be about specific stations and broadcasters who either discuss or don't discuss the Argos and the CFL with specific examples, not a pity party about poor newspaper guys losing their jobs. Many of the same newspaper guys who've been ringing their hands making their living out of writing about the despair of others or worse creating them, with their negative articles like they've done with the CFL for years. Sometimes you reap what you sow.

[R.J]

It should have been merged - it's the same complaints as the other threads.

[Gill The Thrill]

It should have been merged - it's the same complaints as the other threads.

Media watch was about specific examples, not theories such as Americanism or wannabeism, or begging for government decree protecting the CFL from themselves, or forcing OTA stations to broadcast the Grey Cup. Media watch thread had nothing to do with that.

[ArgoGabe22]

Steve Simmons certainly has changed his tune from a few years ago.

http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Baseball/.../22664057.html

[zontar]

Simmons gave a definitive shout -out to BMO field today and encouraged people to come out.

[PullTogether73]

Steve Simmons certainly has changed his tune from a few years ago.

http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Baseball/.../22664057.html

What was "foolish and dangerous" about leaving BMO Field after Wednesday's game?

I wasn't there, but I've attended all the other games and haven't had any issues.

[ArgoGabe22]

What was "foolish and dangerous" about leaving BMO Field after Wednesday's game?

I wasn't there, but I've attended all the other games and haven't had any issues.

In the East end they blocked one of the exits so the players could enter the changerooms. It got backed up and took 10 minutes to get out.

[AngeloV]

In the East end they blocked one of the exits so the players could enter the changerooms. It got backed up and took 10 minutes to get out.

Leaving the west end through the north endzone towards the Go station was really bad, until they finally decided to open the gates just to the west of the scoreboard.