Local Coverage (or the utter lack thereof)

[T-Bone]

I think that he was referring to Mike Richards not you.

I'm pretty sure Hogan is aware of that.

I have been told that Mike specifically has been told by management NOT to talk Argos. Why?

Who told you that? Like AngeloV I have my doubts about it.

[Will]

I have been told that Mike specifically has been told by management NOT to talk Argos.

If you are going to make accusations such as this you'll have to substantiate. Saying someone told you isn't good enough.



What are people's realistic expectations when it comes to the amount of coverage the Argos and the Canadian Football League should be receiving on TSN 1050?

[gilthethrill]

What are people's realistic expectations when it comes to the amount of coverage the Argos and the Canadian Football League should be receiving on TSN 1050?

Other TSN radio stations in other CFL cities have long post game shows with phone ins.....every week in Vancouver Lion President Skulsky comes on each week for something like 90 minutes and even takes calls from fans. Argos did not even have a pre game show on August 3rd against Hamilton...the first CFL game in Southern Ontario this season. It is realistic that TSN Toronto could have a similar format.

[argotom]

What are people's realistic expectations when it comes to the amount of coverage the Argos and the Canadian Football League should be receiving on TSN 1050?

Are you kidding me.
In Canada, ok maybe save and except here in Toronto the wannabe US city, not to talk about the Argos and the CFL should be a crime.

[ArgoGabe22]

I think the 1050 production during games are fantastic but I am a bit disappointed with the post game show which is not a knock against the production crew but perhaps the network?

By the time I get to the car, the post game show has pretty much ended. I may be exaggerating but once it seemed like the post game show was 10 minutes long as it had to be cut on the top of the hour so an already prerecorded ESPN show could be played talking about NFL preseason/training camp. For me, live sports should always be a priority over prerecorded shows.

When I was in Calgary last week, they were still talking about the game afterwards as we drove back and seemed to keep on going as we arrived to our destination. Then in the morning they continued to talk about the game.

[Will]

I have also noted that the other TSN stations actually post the audio broadcast of the game as part of their archives. I wouldn't mind TSN 1050 doing the same as well.

[Scooter McCray]

If you are going to make accusations such as this you'll have to substantiate. Saying someone told you isn't good enough.

This is a first place team in this city. There are all kinds of feel good story lines for a city that does not have a lot of winners. I think this warrants morethan zero coverage outside of GameDay.



What are people's realistic expectations when it comes to the amount of coverage the Argos and the Canadian Football League should be receiving on TSN 1050?

I was referring to Mike Richards and this is a social media blog. I am not being quoted in a paper. When I see MR next I will ask him this. The coverage they get should be proportionate to viewership. I in season behind only Blue Jays right now and only because they are hot. In the fall only behind Leafs. Off season they should still be discussed weekly.

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[Will]

You also have to consider Jim Hunt's adage about the CFL and porn when considering this subject

[AngeloV]

What are people's realistic expectations when it comes to the amount of coverage the Argos and the Canadian Football League should be receiving on TSN 1050?

My realistic expectation is that they should have at least 1 segment per 3 or 4 hour show (morning, mid-morning, afternoon, late afternoon and early evening) during the season. As the rights holder, that should be mandated by upper management. As I said, hopefully this will change once they become ownership partners.

I don't expect all Argos all the time, like some here apparently do, but I don't think mine is an unreasonable expectation.

Are you kidding me.
In Canada, ok maybe save and except here in Toronto the wannabe US city, not to talk about the Argos and the CFL should be a crime.

You know, before you start whining, perhaps you should try and listen to sports stations in other markets. I've been listening to Edmonton sports radio all week in hopes of hearing more of the Argos and Esks game tonight. They do have a bit more coverage of CFL, but they still have just as much coverage of NFL camps and tons of NHL. Maybe you should change your stance to Canada being a wannabe US country.

[R.J]

My realistic expectation is that they should have at least 1 segment per 3 or 4 hour show (morning, mid-morning, afternoon, late afternoon and early evening) during the season. As the rights holder, that should be mandated by upper management. As I said, hopefully this will change once they become ownership partners.

I don't expect all Argos all the time, like some here apparently do, but I don't think mine is an unreasonable expectation.

100% behind this.

[argotom]

My realistic expectation is that they should have at least 1 segment per 3 or 4 hour show (morning, mid-morning, afternoon, late afternoon and early evening) during the season. As the rights holder, that should be mandated by upper management. As I said, hopefully this will change once they become ownership partners.

I don't expect all Argos all the time, like some here apparently do, but I don't think mine is an unreasonable expectation.



You know, before you start whining, perhaps you should try and listen to sports stations in other markets. I've been listening to Edmonton sports radio all week in hopes of hearing more of the Argos and Esks game tonight. They do have a bit more coverage of CFL, but they still have just as much coverage of NFL camps and tons of NHL. Maybe you should change your stance to Canada being a wannabe US country.

I have been to other cities in this country.
From my experience, it's not even close as no one is as bad as Toronto for the arrogance of the population and especially the US wannabe factor.
Exactly one of the reasons and rightfully so the rest of Canada hates us.

[Will]

I have been to other cities in this country.
From my experience, it's not even close as no one is as bad as Toronto for the arrogance of the population and especially the US wannabe factor.
Exactly one of the reasons and rightfully so the rest of Canada hates us.

Your dodging his question, which is have you listened to the other sports stations in other Canadian markets?

[argotom]

Your dodging his question, which is have you listened to the other sports stations in other Canadian markets?

I am not dodging anything, I have been to other cities have listened to their stations.
Sure there is US sports talk but nothing as bad as here not even close.
Currently on Sirrius radio when the games are telecast I do listen to the radio play by play and afterwards and it's lights out difference.
Why has anyone heard different, that would be a lie?

[Scooter McCray]

My realistic expectation is that they should have at least 1 segment per 3 or 4 hour show (morning, mid-morning, afternoon, late afternoon and early evening) during the season. As the rights holder, that should be mandated by upper management. As I said, hopefully this will change once they become ownership partners.

I don't expect all Argos all the time, like some here apparently do, but I don't think mine is an unreasonable expectatio



You know, before you start whining, perhaps you should try and listen to sports stations in other markets. I've been listening to Edmonton sports radio all week in hopes of hearing more of the Argos and Esks game tonight. They do have a bit more coverage of CFL, but they still have just as much coverage of NFL camps and tons of NHL. Maybe you should change your stance to Canada being a wannabe US country.

I think this would represent fair and balanced coverage. It is also light years ahead of what we have today.

[shayman]

As I've said before I have been incredibly disappointed in TSN 1050! Aside from broadcasting the games, Argos All Access and Hogie, Argonauts talk is non existent. Football Fridays don't even start until the NFL season starts and even then they barely even mention the CFL.

"Aside from all the time they talk about the Argos, they never talk about the Argos!"

Come on, give TSN1050 some credit here. They're still doing more than anybody else in this market.

I have been to other cities in this country.
From my experience, it's not even close as no one is as bad as Toronto for the arrogance of the population and especially the US wannabe factor.
Exactly one of the reasons and rightfully so the rest of Canada hates us.

Which of those other cities in this country have

• A major league baseball team currently in the race for the playoffs?
* And an NFL team an hour down the road.
• And a second NFL team within a 4 hour drive.
• And a third NFL team within a 5 hour drive
• And ANOTHER CFL team nearby.

Not many.

[argonaut11xx]

Your dodging his question, which is have you listened to the other sports stations in other Canadian markets?

I watch, "Toronto Lunch", "Winnipeg Lunch", and "Vancouver Lunch" pretty much every single day.

Brian Hayes NEVER talks CFL, in fact he ignores the fact Toronto WON a championship in 2012.

Rick Ralph on Winnipeg lunch talks CFL (not just bombers), in fact last week he had Adrion Smith on his show talking "Argo's"

Matt Sekeras on Vancouver lunch, talks Lions, and has Glen Suitor on regularly to talk CFL. That said he is the most terrible sports personality EVER, more excited about womens golf than the BC lions, plus he is a massive light weight in terms of basic knowledge of sport.

So, to answer the question TSN 1050 is the worst when it comes to CFL or Argo talk. Angelo V had it right in his earlier post regarding at least a segment every so often.

[Neely2005]

"Aside from all the time they talk about the Argos, they never talk about the Argos!"

Come on, give TSN1050 some credit here. They're still doing more than anybody else in this market.



Which of those other cities in this country have

• A major league baseball team currently in the race for the playoffs?
* And an NFL team an hour down the road.
• And a second NFL team within a 4 hour drive.
• And a third NFL team within a 5 hour drive
• And ANOTHER CFL team nearby.

Not many.

Outside of the games they probably talk about the Argonauts for a couple of hours per week.

What NFL team is an hour drive from Toronto?

[argotom]

"Aside from all the time they talk about the Argos, they never talk about the Argos!"

Come on, give TSN1050 some credit here. They're still doing more than anybody else in this market.



Which of those other cities in this country have

• A major league baseball team currently in the race for the playoffs?
* And an NFL team an hour down the road.
• And a second NFL team within a 4 hour drive.
• And a third NFL team within a 5 hour drive
• And ANOTHER CFL team nearby.

Not many.

What does that have to do with anything?
This is still Canada, despite the fact a lot in this city are complete wannabes and couldn't care less about the too few and disappearing institutions left in the country such as the CFL and Argos.

[ArgoRavi]

I am still waiting for a Toronto sports columnist (e.g., Bruce Arthur, Steve Simmons) to write a column about the Argos for the first time this season. We may get it on Labour Day weekend but not likely before then which is absolutely pathetic.

[shayman]

What NFL team is an hour drive from Toronto?

OK, an hour as the very fast crow flies, maybe not driving. It's 67 miles from Skydome to Ralph Wilson Stadium in a straight line. (189 miles to FirstEnergy Stadium in Cleveland. 206 miles to Ford Field in Detroit. )

Point being, with MLB, NBA, NHL, and being surrounded by NFL teams, there is a lot of other sports background noise around here that you don't find in most other CFL cities. Of *course* there isn't as much CFL talk in the media here as there is in some cities. That shouldn't surprise anybody.