October 4, 2013: Hamilton Tiger-Cats vs. Toronto Argonauts

**T-Bone** · 09-30-2013, 08:36 AM

vs.

Week 15
Friday, October 4, 2013 at 7:00pm EDT.
Rogers Centre. Toronto, ON.

TV: TSN
Video Webcast: Mobile TV - ESPN3
Team Radio HAM: CHML 900/Y108 ROCKS - TOR: TSN Radio 1050
Audio Webcast: HAM: Here - TOR: Here
Satellite Radio: SiriusXM

Depth Charts: HAM: Here - TOR: Here

Ticket Info: Here and Here or at Rogers Centre Gate 9 Box Office.

Pre-Game: Gate 11 Tailgate Party Starting at 5:00pm

Post-Game: Shoeless Joe's at 276 King Street West

Reminder: Purolator Tackle Hunger: Bring a non-perishable food item and get your photo taken with the Grey Cup!

Post-Game Update: No Comeback to be Had, Argos Fall 33-19 to Ticats

**mchesher03** · 09-30-2013, 10:28 AM

been looking forward to this one for a month now....

basically I feel like a W on Friday effectively clinches first for the Argos. mathematically not quite but effectively, yes.

should be a fun one

**Mulder** · 09-30-2013, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by mchesher03

been looking forward to this one for a month now....

basically I feel like a W on Friday effectively clinches first for the Argos. mathematically not quite but effectively, yes.

should be a fun one

Even Mathematically it clinches first.

If we win we hold 8 point lead over the Ticats, and have the tie breaker with 4 games left.

**Will** · 09-30-2013, 10:44 AM

Ravi explained this yesterday, but a victory against Hamilton in itself does not clinch first place for the Argonauts. It is true that if the Argos defeat the Tiger-Cats on Friday that it prevents the Tiger-Cats from winning first place, however the Alouettes are 5-8 and there is still a scenario that they could still win the division.

**Mulder** · 09-30-2013, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by argofan87

Ravi explained this yesterday, but a victory against Hamilton in itself does not clinch first place for the Argonauts. It is true that if the Argos defeat the Tiger-Cats on Friday that it prevents the Tiger-Cats from winning first place, however the Alouettes are 5-8 and there is still a scenario that they could still win the division.

Sure, Als have to win out, and Argos have to lose out and lose by more than 21 points vs. We play WPG twice. If we lose to WPG twice in a row we may as well throw in the towel.

**Will** · 09-30-2013, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Mulder

Sure, Als have to win out, and Argos have to lose out and lose by more than 21 points vs. We play WPG twice. If we lose to WPG twice in a row we may as well throw in the towel.

Oh agreed!

**mchesher03** · 09-30-2013, 01:14 PM

also - i think we win this one. Although we are due for a 'good hank' showing given he's looked pretty bad as of late, I think the Argos are coming together well right now - running game looked good on Saturday, Zach is making plays in the latter half of the game and our pass D is looking good (especially on the back end). Although Colclough struggled with Fred Stamps - I'm more lenient on this given Stamps is one of the best in the league and Coclough is relatively new. Hopefully he bounces back well next game (that halfback slot on Lawrence's side has been a revolving door this year so far).

Will we see more lefavour given hank's struggles?g to struggled with Stamps

**Rich** · 09-30-2013, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Mulder

Sure, Als have to win out, and Argos have to lose out and lose by more than 21 points vs. We play WPG twice. If we lose to WPG twice in a row we may as well throw in the towel.

WPG is not that much worse than HAM or MTL. I fully expect us to win all our remaining games.

**Will** · 09-30-2013, 03:49 PM

#Argos 1/2 Chad Owens (ribs) practised last week and will again this week, but will be evaluated before Friday
— Matthew Scianitti (@TSNScianitti) September 30, 2013

#Argos 2/2 John Chiles needed 10 stitches 2close cut between index finger&thumb SAT.He caught passes underhanded."Ill try 2play(vs #Ticats)"
— Matthew Scianitti (@TSNScianitti) September 30, 2013

**AngeloV** · 09-30-2013, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Rich

WPG is not that much worse than HAM or MTL.

Oh...I beg to differ...Winnipeg to me is as bad as the late 80's Art Schlister QB'd Ottawa Rough Riders. It doesn't get much worse than that.

**Will** · 09-30-2013, 04:18 PM

The 1988 Ottawa Rough Riders were particularly putrid! They went 2-16 and scored 278 points (15.4 PFG) and gave up 618 points (34.3 PAG). The Argos were privileged enough to play them 4 times that season and went 4-0 winning by a combined score of 176-28.

The Blue Bombers may finish 2-16. The PF-PA ratio may not be as lopsided as the '88 Rough Riders, but that doesn't make the '13 Bombers any less putrid of a football team.

**AngeloV** · 09-30-2013, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by argofan87

#Argos 1/2 Chad Owens (ribs) practised last week and will again this week, but will be evaluated before Friday
— Matthew Scianitti (@TSNScianitti) September 30, 2013

#Argos 2/2 John Chiles needed 10 stitches 2close cut between index finger&thumb SAT.He caught passes underhanded."Ill try 2play(vs #Ticats)"
— Matthew Scianitti (@TSNScianitti) September 30, 2013

That likely explains why Chiles had such a rough game on Saturday. It sure looked to me like his head wasn't entirely in the game.

**Will** · 09-30-2013, 04:44 PM

Isn't the hand one of the worst places to have to get stitches?

**gilthethrill** · 09-30-2013, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by argofan87

Isn't the hand one of the worst places to have to get stitches?

I can think of at least one other place on the male anatomy that is worse...

Seriously though, I don't think there will be any need for a come from behind victory Friday night...

**ArgoRavi** · 09-30-2013, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Rich

WPG is not that much worse than HAM or MTL.

I disagree. The Bombers' offence is one of the worst that we have seen in a while. Their talent level is simply not at the level of other teams in the league. Their defence is good enough that they can steal the odd game here or there but that team needs an almost complete overhaul at the end of the season.

Hamilton has a potent offence and Montreal has a stellar defence. Both of those teams are also much better coached than Winnipeg IMO.

**jerrym** · 09-30-2013, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by ArgoRavi

I disagree. The Bombers' offence is one of the worst that we have seen in a while. Their talent level is simply not at the level of other teams in the league. Their defence is good enough that they can steal the odd game here or there but that team needs an almost complete overhaul at the end of the season.

Hamilton has a potent offence and Montreal has a stellar defence. Both of those teams are also much better coached than Winnipeg IMO.

Agreed. However, I would say that Saturday proves that the Bad Henry, despite his best stats ever over the season, is still lurking around.

**Fungi** · 09-30-2013, 08:19 PM

Tim Burkes coaching career...
1977-1979 University of Minnesota
1980 Gardner-Webb University
1981 Appalachian State University
1982-1985 University of South Dakota
1986-1988 University of North Dakota
1989-1994 Ball State University
1995-1996 University of Wyoming
1997-1999 Purdue University
2000-2001 University of Kansas
2003 University of Tennessee
2004 Indiana State University
2005-2007 Calgary Stampeders
2008-2010 Montreal Alouettes
2011-present Bummers
Winnipeg fans deserve better.

**AngeloV** · 09-30-2013, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Fungi

Tim Burkes coaching career...
1977-1979 University of Minnesota
1980 Gardner-Webb University
1981 Appalachian State University
1982-1985 University of South Dakota
1986-1988 University of North Dakota
1989-1994 Ball State University
1995-1996 University of Wyoming
1997-1999 Purdue University
2000-2001 University of Kansas
2003 University of Tennessee
2004 Indiana State University
2005-2007 Calgary Stampeders
2008-2010 Montreal Alouettes
2011-present Bummers
Winnipeg fans deserve better.

I don't what you mean by posting this. Looks like a pretty good resume to me...and as has been mentioned, he has had a lot of success as a D-Coordinator in the CFL. Not all good coordinators make good head coaches, but the way Joe Mack ran that team, Burke was simply put in a no win situation.

**Rich** · 09-30-2013, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by ArgoRavi

I disagree. The Bombers' offence is one of the worst that we have seen in a while. Their talent level is simply not at the level of other teams in the league. Their defence is good enough that they can steal the odd game here or there but that team needs an almost complete overhaul at the end of the season.

Hamilton has a potent offence and Montreal has a stellar defence. Both of those teams are also much better coached than Winnipeg IMO.

You may be right. But I still think we're the best team in the league, and as such, I expect to us to win every game from here on in.

Get yer swagger on, Argo fans. Fans of other Toronto teams will be envious.

**LLB997** · 09-30-2013, 11:36 PM

i am hoping it will be a large turnout. Alot of ticat fans have been shut out of the tiny digs in guelph and may be chomping at the bit to invade Hogtown via the GO train. This record setting Argos club deserve a packed house this friday.come one come all.