October 14, 2013: Toronto Argonauts vs. Hamilton Tiger-Cats

[T-Bone]

vs.

Week 16
Monday, October 14, 2013 at 4:30pm EDT.
Alumni Stadium. Guelph, ON.

TV: TSN - RDS2 HD - NBC Sports
Video Webcast: Mobile TV
Team Radio TOR: TSN Radio 1050 - HAM: CHML 900/Y108 ROCKS
Audio Webcast: TOR: Here - HAM: Here
Satellite Radio: SiriusXM

Depth Charts: TOR: Here - HAM: Here

Away Game Viewing:


Post-Game Update: Battle Won: Ticats Win Game, Season-Series Over Argos

[Will]

I say we can't really afford to lose this one folks.

[doubleblue]

I expect the Argos to bounce back with Ricky Ray at QB.

[1argoholic]

Argos will win this at their old training camp facility. Good times there back in 91.

[ArgoZ]

Argos will win this at their old training camp facility. Good times there back in 91.

I believe it stayed their training camp until 1996. I met Argo QB Kent Austin for the first time in the Guelph weight room during the 95 season. I haven't been back since and are looking forward to attending the game.

[flafson]

Was it announced that RR will be starting?

[jerrym]

With Ricky Ray and the hunger that comes from having lost and facing the challenge of your most likely playoff opponent, I expect the Argos to win this one.

[argofandave]

Argos will win this at their old training camp facility. Good times there back in 91.

One of the Argos office staff members told me that the Ticats needed permission from the Argos to play games in Guelph this year since Guelph is still considered Argos territory because the Argos used to have their training camp there. I think that 1995 was the last season the Argos held their training camp in Guelph and they moved their training camp to Varsity Stadium in 1996.

[mchesher03]

decent forecast for Monday - looks like a good day for a bit of tailgating and a ticat beating. their fans will be whipped up by last friday's W which will just make our win on Monday all the sweeter....

[paulwoods13]

For those who are going, I will be selling my book on the 1983 Argos (Bouncing Back: From National Joke to Grey Cup Champs, http://bouncingbackbook.ca) before the game on the west concourse on Powerhouse Lane.

Five bucks from the sale of each book goes to Play Action minor football in Hamilton. http://www.ticats.ca/page/playaction_minorfootball

This is all thanks to David Watkins, who worked for the Argos in 1983, was interviewed for the book and is now a member of the Tiger-Cats front office.

Hope to see some of you there!

[Deerkeeper]

For those who are going, I will be selling my book on the 1983 Argos (Bouncing Back: From National Joke to Grey Cup Champs, http://bouncingbackbook.ca) before the game on the west concourse on Powerhouse Lane.

Five bucks from the sale of each book goes to Play Action minor football in Hamilton. http://www.ticats.ca/page/playaction_minorfootball

This is all thanks to David Watkins, who worked for the Argos in 1983, was interviewed for the book and is now a member of the Tiger-Cats front office.

Hope to see some of you there!

You are selling a book glorifying the Toronto Argonauts at a Hamilton Tiger-Cat home game. Are you going to need any body guards? I'm going to the game so I'll try and drop around. I haven't read a book in over 15 years, so I guess maybe I'm due.

[paulwoods13]

You are selling a book glorifying the Toronto Argonauts at a Hamilton Tiger-Cat home game. Are you going to need any body guards? I'm going to the game so I'll try and drop around. I haven't read a book in over 15 years, so I guess maybe I'm due.

It has crossed my mind that I might take some abuse -- I certainly have at Labour Day games when I wasn't selling a book. But I'm counting on the goodwill of most Ticats fans. Many of them seem to realize that the two teams -- and their fanbases -- are intextricably tied together and need each other. Let's hope this year the two meet in the Eastern Final -- that would be great for football interest in southern Ont.

I hope to meet you, Deerkeeper. If you are due to read a book, this is definitely the one!

[Argo57]

See you there Paul!!!

[gilthethrill]

Frank Ziccarelli reports that Kackert has not taken any reps this week and that Norwood may start. What happened to Kackert? Why would he report this without further info? Argo injuries continue to be a mystery in most cases.

[paulwoods13]

No depth chart up yet (not surprisingly as the game is about 56 hours away). Anyone been to practice this week who can report on who looks to be starting on the o-line? Jarriel King did not play the second half last week, with Van Zeyl moving to tackle, Eppele to right guard and Wayne Smith to left guard. Continuing with that alignment would allow them to dress the extra import (Jamie Robinson, according to Zicarelli) that they will need in the secondary because of Matt Black's injury. Zicarelli says Barnes could come out for Robinson but I would think if Barnes comes out, it will be for Chiles. I believe they will dress a backup import RB, given Kackert's apparent injury, so one import receiver -- either Barnes or Guy -- will have to go.

[gilthethrill]

No depth chart up yet (not surprisingly as the game is about 56 hours away). Anyone been to practice this week who can report on who looks to be starting on the o-line? Jarriel King did not play the second half last week, with Van Zeyl moving to tackle, Eppele to right guard and Wayne Smith to left guard. Continuing with that alignment would allow them to dress the extra import (Jamie Robinson, according to Zicarelli) that they will need in the secondary because of Matt Black's injury. Zicarelli says Barnes could come out for Robinson but I would think if Barnes comes out, it will be for Chiles. I believe they will dress a backup import RB, given Kackert's apparent injury, so one import receiver -- either Barnes or Guy -- will have to go.

Paul, you continue to amaze me with your game observations. I watched the game closely as always on my HD TV last Friday, but did not pick up hardly any of those player shuffles....I don't mean to criticize, but should the TSN sideline reporter or the play by play guys not pick up these moves and inform the viewers?

I do pay attention when I am watching.....honest.....I vote Guy to sit out if you are correct about your roster forecast.

[paulwoods13]

Paul, you continue to amaze me with your game observations. I watched the game closely as always on my HD TV last Friday, but did not pick up hardly any of those player shuffles....I don't mean to criticize, but should the TSN sideline reporter or the play by play guys not pick up these moves and inform the viewers?

I do pay attention when I am watching.....honest.....I vote Guy to sit out if you are correct about your roster forecast.

I do wish TSN would report important stuff like this during the game, but that hasn't happened since the days of Bill Stephenson and Brian Williams on CTV and CBC in the early 1980s. It's also a problem at times even with a big-bucks outfit like Hockey Night in Canada -- I remember in Game 7 of the 1993 Norris Division semifinal, Toronto at Detroit, the Wings played most of the game without their best defenceman, Paul Coffey, and it was never noticed or mentioned by Bob Cole and Harry Neale even though at one point the producer pulled up a lengthy shot of Coffey sitting on the bench.

I admit I am obsessive about personnel changes, especially on the two lines, at home games where I can watch every substitution.

[ArgoRavi]

I have complained about this before but, further to Paul's point, the quality and use of sideline reporting today isn't what it was in the old days with the likes of Stephenson, Tom McKee and Al McCann. Those guys lived and breathed the CFL and knew the game and its players well. There are some good sideline reporters in Sara Orlesky, Matt Scianitti and Farhan Lalji along with some not so good ones but I don't think that TSN leans on them the way that CBC and CTV used to lean on their sideline reporters. I had no clue that either Kackert or Black were injured in last week's game.

[gilthethrill]

I have complained about this before but, further to Paul's point, the quality and use of sideline reporting today isn't what it was in the old days with the likes of Stephenson, Tom McKee and Al McCann. Those guys lived and breathed the CFL and knew the game and its players well. There are some good sideline reporters in Sara Orlesky, Matt Scianitti and Farhan Lalji along with some not so good ones but I don't think that TSN leans on them the way that CBC and CTV used to lean on their sideline reporters. I had no clue that either Kackert or Black were injured in last week's game.

Thanks Ravi, I now I know I have a valid concern....again, for your most up to date Argo news, tune into the pre-game show on TSN 1050...Hoagie & crew don't miss much if anything.

[AngeloV]

I blame the spotters more than the sideline reporters for this. I think the spotter should pick up personnel changes, and let the producer know, who then can get the sideline reporter to figure out what is going on.