New Stadium Locations

[ArgoRavi]

The chances of an NFL team coming to Toronto in the next decade are "pretty good" according to Leiweke? Paul Godfrey said the same thing twenty-five years ago.

[ArgoZ]

The chances of an NFL team coming to Toronto in the next decade are "pretty good" according to Leiweke? Paul Godfrey said the same thing twenty-five years ago.

Year after year there is some talking head predicting the NFL's arrival. Eventually, they grow old, retire, maybe pass away, and someone new takes their place, all while the NFL is still not here.

[QBall]

From today
On other matters, Leiweke said:

-- The chances of an NFL team coming to Toronto in the next decade are "pretty good."

Really Tim? The NFL seems to think differently

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/98...nfl-wants-both

L.A. or London first? NFL wants both

[rdavies]

Really Tim? The NFL seems to think differently
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/98...nfl-wants-both
L.A. or London first? NFL wants both

"Goodell is a huge proponent of playing in London. There will be two regular-season games played in London this season and three in 2014. The games are wildly popular and have been sellouts." You are proving you are worthy of a franchise," Goodell told the European fans."

Looks like the Bills in Toronto series is proving otherwise.

Lots of US fans don't want a team in London, reminiscent of US fans not wanting TFC in MLS. Personally I have a hard time believing that quite a few players won't have a problem with living there. Players in other sports already whine about taxes, customs (border crossing) and not being able to see themselves on ESPN while playing in Canada, let alone the different culture that is England.

[QBall]

"Goodell is a huge proponent of playing in London. There will be two regular-season games played in London this season and three in 2014. The games are wildly popular and have been sellouts." You are proving you are worthy of a franchise," Goodell told the European fans."

Looks like the Bills in Toronto series is proving otherwise.

Lots of US fans don't want a team in London, reminiscent of US fans not wanting TFC in MLS. Personally I have a hard time believing that quite a few players won't have a problem with living there. Players in other sports already whine about taxes, customs (border crossing) and not being able to see themselves on ESPN while playing in Canada, let alone the different culture that is England.

Can you imagine people in London waking up at 3:00 A.M. to watch their London team play an away game in Seattle, San Francisco, Oakland or San Diego at 7:00 PM PST?
As I understand it the NFL won't allow a corporation or group to own a team, it has to be an individual, so I don't know why Robbers is trying so hard. I don't know too many Canadians who have the cash sitting around to pay the $1 billion expansion fee.

[argos1873]

As I understand it the NFL won't allow a corporation or group to own a team, it has to be an individual, so I don't know why Robbers is trying so hard. I don't know too many Canadians who have the cash sitting around to pay the $1 billion expansion fee.

That's not entirely true, a corporation can own a certain amount of a team so long as a certain amount is owned by an individual, and then there are certain percentages that the individual's family can own. I don't know the numbers off hand, but for this discussion it doesn't really matter as an NFL team, not even a relocation of the Bills is in Toronto's future in the conceivable future. Let's put it this way, if you are Ralph Wilson or whoever is controlling his estate, and you have 2 suitors for your team, do you sell it to Toronto, or do you sell it to LA? And which one do you think the NFL will UNILATERALLY agree to? The answer to both? LA. Toronto doesn't even have a suitable NFL stadium for god's sake. The NFL isn't coming to Toronto any time soon folks, regardless of what the local NFL hypers would want you to believe.

[argotom]

Back to the topic on hand. Markham is the only logical location. It is central from all directions, the city, east, west and north in the GTA.

[Neely2005]

Back to the topic on hand. Markham is the only logical location. It is central from all directions, the city, east, west and north in the GTA.

Richmond Hill is more central than Markham and Vaughan is just as central as Markham.

Yonge and Highway 7 / 407 is pretty much the dead center of the GTA.

[Ron]

IMO CFL (Argo) fans are more obsessed about the NFL in Toronto than NFL fans. Even here we have a Argo stadium thread turned into an NFL in Toronto thread.

The NFL ain't coming in many years if ever. So why do we talk about it so damned much?

[Neely2005]

Well this Thread certainly went off topic.

[Will]

Well if this poll tells us anything it is that there is anything BUT consensus amongst Argo fans.

[VANRIDERFAN]

Just curious. But for folks here that go to both Argo and Blue Jays games, how much of a difference is the game day experience between the two franchises? And if the Argo's had their own stadium and had a more control of the game day festivities could that translate into more fans coming to the game?

[Neely2005]

Just curious. But for folks here that go to both Argo and Blue Jays games, how much of a difference is the game day experience between the two franchises? And if the Argo's had their own stadium and had a more control of the game day festivities could that translate into more fans coming to the game?

I went to 1 Blue Jays game this season, it was my first in years. Baseball fans aren't as boisterous as football fans so it's a very different atmosphere.

As to a new stadium I think that the biggest thing would be that the Argonauts would get much better dates. This seasons home schedule was a joke. The Argonauts get the Blue Jays scraps when it comes to scheduling.

[ArgoGabe22]

Not sure if anyone goes to Jays games except maybe for one?

[argolio]

I haven't been to a Jays game since 1991 so I can't help you there.

[rdavies]

Another lightning bolt thrust against the Argos. After the U of T president changed and the U of T deal fell through and C and S made the (in hindsight) bad decision to continue at the RC now we have the pro football mayor declaring himself a crackhead (exaggeration) and basically killing his tenure as mayor. Can this team finally get some off the field luck working for them?

[ArgoRavi]

Another lightning bolt thrust against the Argos. After the U of T president changed and the U of T deal fell through and C and S made the (in hindsight) bad decision to continue at the RC now we have the pro football mayor declaring himself a crackhead (exaggeration) and basically killing his tenure as mayor. Can this team finally get some off the field luck working for them?

Has Ford done much for the Argos? We know that he and his brother have been on record about going after an NFL franchise. I am not sure that Roger Goodell will be taking any calls from the Fords anytime soon though, especially after Ford wore an NFL tie for today's big "crack admission" press conference: http://blogs.canoe.ca/slam/sports/ba...poor-judgment/

[Tau Ceti]

Has Ford done much for the Argos? We know that he and his brother have been on record about going after an NFL franchise. I am not sure that Roger Goodell will be taking any calls from the Fords anytime soon though.

Rob Ford has done zilch for the Argos. He talked about the need for a new stadium when he came back from Winnipeg but no one on city council takes his pontificating seriously.

Karen Stintz is on record as an Argo fan, by the way. She tweeted from a game or two last year. Plus she never seems to be high on... aww, too easy.

[AngeloV]

Rob Ford has done zilch for the Argos. He talked about the need for a new stadium when he came back from Winnipeg but no one on city council takes his pontificating seriously.

Karen Stintz is on record as an Argo fan, by the way. She tweeted from a game or two last year. Plus she never seems to be high on... aww, too easy.

I can confirm this. I've seen her in sec 234 at 3 different games this season, and she gets right into the games cheering. Unlike Ford who went to the pre season game just to be seen.

[Neely2005]

I can confirm this. I've seen her in sec 234 at 3 different games this season, and she gets right into the games cheering. Unlike Ford who went to the pre season game just to be seen.

She also said:

Councillor Karen Stintz, who attends many Argonauts games as well as the past two Grey Cups and the upcoming one in Regina, said it would be more economical and her preference to make going to the Rogers Centre a better experience, instead of building something new.
“I would find it interesting to work on how we fill the existing stadium,” Stintz said. “My preference. Would be to get people interested in football again in Toronto (at the current home). The spirit in Saskatchewan, Winnipeg and even B.C. is so amazing, it would be great to get that kind of spirit in Toronto.”

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/07/26...rgos-play-next

So she's obviously out to lunch as she didn't even seem to be aware that the Rogers Centre is putting in grass and kicking out the Argonauts.