New Stadium Locations

[ArgoRavi]

Wow, what a joke these 2 are. I feel really good about the situation knowing that these 2 hash dealers take the opposing view.

I have no doubt that these two guys crave the U.S. media attention that Rob Ford has been getting and that part of their reason for wanting an NFL team is to keep the Fords on the U.S. map.

[argonaut11xx]

I think the majority of Toronto's hardcore NFL fans are between 18 and 35, males....a GREAT demographic, but my bet is the vast majority of these folks who show up in the pub's sporting an NFL jersey, are probably still living at home with their parents, and could only pony up 20K if they won a lottery

[ArgoRavi]

I think the majority of Toronto's hardcore NFL fans are between 18 and 35, males....a GREAT demographic, but my bet is the vast majority of these folks who show up in the pub's sporting an NFL jersey, are probably still living at home with their parents, and could only pony up 20K if they won a lottery

Or if they won that much in their office pool. I often wonder just how popular the NFL would be in Toronto and Canada if it weren't for gambling.

[AngeloV]

Or if they won that much in their office pool. I often wonder just how popular the NFL would be in Toronto and Canada if it weren't for gambling.

Good question. Those that like the game for what it is, are probably also CFL fans. The ones that give into peer pressure and are closet CFL fans (to avoid being ridiculed by the clueless gambling types that "hate the CFL"), would likely follow the NFL as well.

[ArgoGabe22]

I heard Braley has a very good poker face.

[Rids]

For the cost of seat licenses that isn't out of the ordinary. The question of if folks in Toronto would pay that amount though is a good one. I'm hesitant that any Canadian city would pay those amounts for a Personal Seat License.

[ArgoRavi]

For the cost of seat licenses that isn't out of the ordinary. The question of if folks in Toronto would pay that amount though is a good one. I'm hesitant that any Canadian city would pay those amounts for a Personal Seat License.

I agree. Pro sports isn't ingrained in the Canadian consciousness as it is in the U.S. which makes a big difference in regards to willingness to pay exorbitant amounts for seat licenses.

[bluto]

those poor, poor dead horses...

why does Neelytroll hate them so?

[Wobbler]

No name calling please, bluto.

[bluto]

No name calling please, bluto.

beating the same dead horse in multiple threads and re-reaising the same points ad nauseum isn't trolling? i beg your pardon.

[Neely2005]

After all this, it would not surprise me if this MLSE so called sure thing deal with BMO fell apart and we wind up with a stadium in Markham.
Let's hope so.

Markham would be good but I still think that Vaughan makes more sense because of the TTC Subway extension.

[paulwoods13]

Markham would be good but I still think that Vaughan makes more sense because of the TTC Subway extension.

And it makes no sense without $150-200M to build a new stadium.

[ArgoGabe22]

Markham would be good but I still think that Vaughan makes more sense because of the TTC Subway extension.

Be honest, do you really want the Argos to have their own stadium anywhere or do you just want the stadium right in your backyard? To me it sounds like the latter.

[Neely2005]

Be honest, do you really want the Argos to have their own stadium anywhere or do you just want the stadium right in your backyard? To me it sounds like the latter.

I live in North York so it's not going to be in my backyard no matter where it is.

If the Argonauts can get their own stadium where they control all of the revenue and dates wouldn't that be better for the team?

[paulwoods13]

I live in North York so it's not going to be in my backyard no matter where it is.

If the Argonauts can get their own stadium where they control all of the revenue and dates wouldn't that be better for the team?

If ifs and buts were candies and nuts, we'd all have a happy Christmas.

Let me state for the record, I would LOVE the Argos to own their own stadium. But let me also state that at a cost of $150-200M, it is not going to happen. Period. Why are some folks still holding out hope it will?

[rdavies]

Let me state for the record, I would LOVE the Argos to own their own stadium. But let me also state that at a cost of $150-200M, it is not going to happen. Period. Why are some folks still holding out hope it will?

Do I think it will happen, no. But I'm not going to categorically say it won't or can't. Ottawa, Winnipeg and Saskatchewan were able to create deals and I think Mr Braley is well connected (publicly and privately) enough to create a deal if he so chose. I think if he was younger and had more confidence in the future of this market that he likely would. But as you say ifs and buts.

Here's where his head is at "The Burlington resident and Ontario senator told about 60 people during a fundraising event Sept. 18 at the Lakeview on Van Wagner’s Beach Road, said if Confederation wasn’t available, then the next option should have been to drop it on 100 acres of land, and then add commercial and retail building, including a hotel, to support it. He said it would have benefited the city’s business community, and for Hamilton’s economic development sector.
“We should have developed the land with retail, and hotels” (that other municipalities have done, including Ottawa), said Braley."

Personally, I can't see him planning a standalone stadium for the Argos but there are other options and I think they should be explored so when BMO sharing goes bust, they'll have some options.

[rdavies]

So you think the stadium sharing will be all sunshine and roses.

[T-Bone]

So you think the stadium sharing will be all sunshine and roses.

It's possible it will go a lot smoother than some on either side think. Only time will tell.

[rdavies]

Only time will tell.

Exactly, but the soccer crowd is a finicky bunch.

[T-Bone]

Exactly, but the soccer crowd is a finicky bunch.

All of them, eh. Not some. I would say some Argo fans are just as finicky as some TFC fans.