No Shock: Bills in Toronto likely done?

[Argocister]

.......... and focus on more productive endeavours that could really help the city.

Cough.....cough.....hhmmmmm..... I would doubt that part of your statement ever enters their mind. ......perhaps other endeavours that can get them dollars and notoriety .

[argolio]

In the latest twist, Forbes says no one bid over a billion: http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozan...low-1-billion/

If true, this thing is far from over.

[ArgoRavi]

In the latest twist, Forbes says no one bid over a billion: http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozan...low-1-billion/

If true, this thing is far from over.

I think that the only way the Bon Jovi group can be successful here is if they sign some kind of binding agreement saying that they won't move the Bills within the next 10 years. Regardless of who has bid what, I think that there is simply too much doubt about the intentions of Bon Jovi and friends.

[Mulder]

So if this group does happen to move the team to Toronto what do they call them? They certainly won't call them the Toronto Bills.

Creative thinking comes here to say that the Media/Rogers have been slowly undermining the CFL & Argos in Toronto for years in hopes that they do fold. Buy the name, and there is the newest Toronto football teams name. They certainly cannot do this while they are operating.

Anyways, just a crazy thought

[ArgoRavi]

So if this group does happen to move the team to Toronto what do they call them? They certainly won't call them the Toronto Bills.

Creative thinking comes here to say that the Media/Rogers have been slowly undermining the CFL & Argos in Toronto for years in hopes that they do fold. Buy the name, and there is the newest Toronto football teams name. They certainly cannot do this while they are operating.

Anyways, just a crazy thought

It isn't that crazy, Mulder. There has been media speculation for years that the NFL in Toronto people would love to have the Argonauts name because of the rich football history associated with it.

[Fumblitis]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ls-to-toronto/. Did anybody read this yet?

[Argocister]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ls-to-toronto/. Did anybody read this yet?

Karma ..... thats all I can say .....


Better idea .... the Argos should partner up with the Bills and support each other from a distance .... keep the Bills in Buffalo and support the Argos as Toronto's football team!

[ArgoRavi]

Only a fool would believe that they have no intention of moving the team to Toronto which should immediately disqualify them from this bidding process.

[argolio]

Only a fool would believe that they have no intention of moving the team to Toronto which should immediately disqualify them from this bidding process.

It should in theory, and maybe it eventually will. But in fact they're still in the running, so they may have have a chance if they have the best bid by a good enough margin.

[argonaut11xx]

While "The Bill's in Toronto" series was a massive failure on the field, Im quite sure it did help the Rogers folks forge some pretty solid synergy's with both the NFL, and the Bill's hierarchy. Probably a big reason that the group of bidders is being given every single chance to succeed.

[R.J]

While "The Bill's in Toronto" series was a massive failure on the field, Im quite sure it did help the Rogers folks forge some pretty solid synergy's with both the NFL, and the Bill's hierarchy. Probably a big reason that the group of bidders is being given every single chance to succeed.

Or it could be becuase Morgan Stanley and the Bills Trust are using the Bon Jovi Toronto Group to create panic and ensure that higher bids coming in from someone like Terry Pegula (who'll end up owning the team).

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/08/14...ellers-sources

The ever-growing sense, even within the Toronto group, is that their bid was kept alive merely to create the illusion for Pegula that he's in a horse race, and to provide the perceived relocation threat needed to convince Pegula and other bidders that the Bills -- Buffalo's Bills -- still need saving.

http://blogs.canoe.ca/krykslants/nfl...-in-manhattan/

It was widely believed the trust would advance the Toronto group to the final phase of the sale, if only to keep panic in the sales process.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...icle-1.1903725

Should also check out Tim Graham's twitter https://twitter.com/ByTimGraham

Seems like piling on, but source close to the Bon Jovi group tells me there's "major tension" within. Partners not getting along lately.

Tim Graham @ByTimGraham · Aug 14
The Bon Jovi group has to be rooting for the Bills sale to wrap up soon. They need to be put out of their misery.

Tim Graham @ByTimGraham · Aug 13
Educated source once involved in Bills sales process says team is "Pegula's to lose" and Bon Jovi group is "unfocused and disorganized."

Tim Graham @ByTimGraham
Same source as earlier tweet tells me Bills will be in Western New York "for a very, very long time whether they get a new stadium or not."

[zontar]

In an interview with resident jackass Sixeiro Brunt finally admits what's been common knowledge for weeks that the Rogers related NFL bid died on the table.

Huge when you consider how much he (Mr. The NFL in Toronto is "inevitible") and the corp. invested so much hype and media manipulation which included ignoring and deriding the CFL - nearly a decade's worth of effort now over.

F*** You , Rogers. Failure looks good on ya.

[ArgoRavi]

In an interview with resident jackass Sixeiro Brunt finally admits what's been common knowledge for weeks that the Rogers related NFL bid died on the table.

Huge when you consider how much he (Mr. The NFL in Toronto is "inevitible") and the corp. invested so much hype and media manipulation which included ignoring and deriding the CFL - nearly a decade's worth of effort now over.

F*** You , Rogers. Failure looks good on ya.

I agree, Zontar. Who can forget those proclamations from Brunt and much of the rest of the Toronto sports media in the fall of 2007 when the Bills in Toronto series was announced? Having said all of this, I still want to hear the official word that the Toronto group has pulled out/failed in its bid for the Bills. However, it is looking like the NFL in Toronto dream is dead for quite some time - or at least it should be. Leiweke's leaving MLSE is also noteworthy as him having NFL contacts was one of the main reasons MSE presumably brought him to Toronto (again, according to so many in the Toronto sports media).

[R.J]

I agree, Zontar. Who can forget those proclamations from Brunt and much of the rest of the Toronto sports media in the fall of 2007 when the Bills in Toronto series was announced? Having said all of this, I still want to hear the official word that the Toronto group has pulled out/failed in its bid for the Bills. However, it is looking like the NFL in Toronto dream is dead for quite some time - or at least it should be. Leiweke's leaving MLSE is also noteworthy as him having NFL contacts was one of the main reasons MSE presumably brought him to Toronto (again, according to so many in the Toronto sports media).

http://bills.buffalonews.com/2014/08...heduled-today/
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/08/21...n-life-support

[zontar]

I agree, Zontar. Who can forget those proclamations from Brunt and much of the rest of the Toronto sports media in the fall of 2007 when the Bills in Toronto series was announced? Having said all of this, I still want to hear the official word that the Toronto group has pulled out/failed in its bid for the Bills. However, it is looking like the NFL in Toronto dream is dead for quite some time - or at least it should be. Leiweke's leaving MLSE is also noteworthy as him having NFL contacts was one of the main reasons MSE presumably brought him to Toronto (again, according to so many in the Toronto sports media).

In the interview Brunt mocked the supposedly few Argo fans in TOR for good measure.

[Tau Ceti]

Do you have a link to this interview?

[ArgoRavi]

Do you have a link to this interview?

Go to this site: http://www.sportsnet.ca/590/on-demand/#rotation=1

Go down to Tim and Sid - August 21st and you will hear Brunt there. BTW, do you notice that at the top of FAN 590's website that CFL is listed under the "More" tab rather than having a tab of its own like the NFL or even UFC? That speaks volumes right there.

As far as what Brunt says here, I do agree with what he says about Braley and about Michael Copeland being a strong candidate for CFL commissioner.

[ArgoRavi]

Tanenbaum and Rogers have kicked Bon Jovi out of their group: http://nypost.com/2014/08/29/bon-jov...ing-for-bills/

Doesn't this make it even more apparent that these guys would move the Bills to Toronto? If there is even a hint of that happening, they are supposed to be disqualified from this competition.

[Argocister]

Tanenbaum and Rogers have kicked Bon Jovi out of their group: http://nypost.com/2014/08/29/bon-jov...ing-for-bills/

Doesn't this make it even more apparent that these guys would move the Bills to Toronto? If there is even a hint of that happening, they are supposed to be disqualified from this competition.

Perhaps Tannenbaum and Rogers could move to NY state .... I wouldn't mind

[ArgoRavi]

The Sun is saying that the New York Post report may be erroneous: http://www.torontosun.com/2014/08/30...e-wasnt-booted