No Shock: Bills in Toronto likely done?

**rdavies** · 03-07-2014, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by argonaut11xx

Keith Pelley just said on the fan590, that ...im paraphrasing...

"The 36,000 paid seats for the last bills game was still 3 times the amount of paid seats the defending grey cup champions Argo's get"

Pelley sure knows where his dinner hangs...these Rogers hacks will say just about anything.

what a typical rogers Dick, um er Richardhead

Glad you noticed that as well. Was very surprised at this cheapshot especially coming from him. He was really taken aback at the interview, trying to spin the Bills failure. Grange was your typical Rogers kissass spinning the story like a guy doing plates on Ed Sullivan.

McCown was laying it into Rogers but he does it in that old Arthur Godfrey type way where he can get away with it.

Is there one "journalist" in Toronto aside from McCown who has the cajones to go against Rogers. There used to be a time when reporters were rebels not corporate hos and shills.

**zontar** · 03-07-2014, 09:06 AM

Weird, because I thought any anti-CFL bias from Rogers was a product of one's imagination.

**Fumblitis** · 03-07-2014, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by rdavies

Glad you noticed that as well. Was very surprised at this cheapshot especially coming from him. He was really taken aback at the interview, trying to spin the Bills failure. Grange was your typical Rogers kissass spinning the story like a guy doing plates on Ed Sullivan.

McCown was laying it into Rogers but he does it in that old Arthur Godfrey type way where he can get away with it.

Is there one "journalist" in Toronto aside from McCown who has the cajones to go against Rogers. There used to be a time when reporters were rebels not corporate hos and shills.

I got to admit I thought McCown would tow the line and come up with a lame excuse as well. It surprised me hear him repeatedly rip Pelley over the Bills fiasco.

**Neely2005** · 03-07-2014, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by argolio

McCown had Jerry Sullivan of the Buffalo News on. They both think this means the end of the Bills in Toronto. McCown, who always thought this was a bad idea, believes Rogers easily lost $20 million on this deal, and maybe a lot more than that.

Here's the Audio from that interview:

Mar
5

Listen Prime Time Sports - March 5 - 6pm
Wednesday, 6 pm: Jerry Sullivan and Richard Deitsch

**Neely2005** · 03-07-2014, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by argonaut11xx

Keith Pelley just said on the fan590, that ...im paraphrasing...

"The 36,000 paid seats for the last bills game was still 3 times the amount of paid seats the defending grey cup champions Argo's get"

Pelley sure knows where his dinner hangs...these Rogers hacks will say just about anything.

what a typical rogers Dick, um er Richardhead

Here's the Audio from the Pelley interview:

Listen Prime Time Sports - March 6th - 5pm
March 6th, 5 pm: Hockey Night In Canada analyst Glenn Healy and Rogers Broadcasting President, Keith Pelley.

**Neely2005** · 03-07-2014, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by Fumblitis

I got to admit I thought McCown would tow the line and come up with a lame excuse as well. It surprised me hear him repeatedly rip Pelley over the Bills fiasco.

I think that McCown has always been pretty honest in his opinions. I've never understood the people who said that he towed the corporate line. He's also been saying for Decades that the NFL won't work in Toronto.

**rdavies** · 03-07-2014, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by argonaut11xx

Keith Pelley just said on the fan590, that ...im paraphrasing...

"The 36,000 paid seats for the last bills game was still 3 times the amount of paid seats the defending grey cup champions Argo's get"

Pelley sure knows where his dinner hangs...these Rogers hacks will say just about anything. what a typical rogers Dick, um er Richardhead

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**Neely2005** · 03-07-2014, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by rdavies

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I'd have to disagree with that. Ted Rogers was very pro Canada and a very proud Canadian.

**LLB997** · 03-07-2014, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Neely2005

I'd have to disagree with that. Ted Rogers was very pro Canada and a very proud Canadian.

sounds like u knew the man

**Neely2005** · 03-07-2014, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by LLB997

sounds like u knew the man

No I never met him but I've worked in the industry for a long time so I've spoken to a few people who knew him. I also know people who work at Rogers and they say that it's not quite the same company since he passed away.

**VANRIDERFAN** · 03-07-2014, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Neely2005

I'd have to disagree with that. Ted Rogers was very pro Canada and a very proud Canadian.

Seems like he was a man who just did not want to support the CFL.

**argotom** · 03-07-2014, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Argo

Gee, that's a shame.

It's more like $20M per game on top of the $78M paid.

**argotom** · 03-07-2014, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by rdavies

Glad you noticed that as well. Was very surprised at this cheapshot especially coming from him. He was really taken aback at the interview, trying to spin the Bills failure. Grange was your typical Rogers kissass spinning the story like a guy doing plates on Ed Sullivan.

McCown was laying it into Rogers but he does it in that old Arthur Godfrey type way where he can get away with it.

Is there one "journalist" in Toronto aside from McCown who has the cajones to go against Rogers. There used to be a time when reporters were rebels not corporate hos and shills.

As much as some of us have given it to McCown for the way he has treated the Argos and the CFL, I m glad he reportedly said that as this has been his m/o for all of the years.

**Neely2005** · 03-07-2014, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN

Seems like he was a man who just did not want to support the CFL.

Well if he wanted to he could have kicked the Argonauts out of the Rogers Centre and that would have pretty much killed them.

**rdavies** · 03-07-2014, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Neely2005

they say that it's not quite the same company since he passed away.

My point exactly. Yes, Ted was an ok guy, but the NFL push began under his watch and his company has benefited greatly from a regulated Canadian industry. And for them to try to bring in something foreign that is detrimental to a Canadian institution, is not on, Ted or no Ted, may he rest in peace.

**OV Argo** · 03-07-2014, 09:20 PM

Not sure it is recognized enough - what the Argos have been up against for so long: either anti-CFLers or those who ignore or show lack of respect for the CFL - in the media (McCown, Simmons, maybe Brunt (though he obviously has his supporters here) types and all the other snickering little wannabes there), Rogers and all the NFL for TO pushers, the "major league" / "world class" set in joe average sports fandom out there who look down their noses or mock the CFL/Argos. Now we're good with some corporate scum-bags to the rescue as Argo owner/saviours ?

Tough road, but ... shove it sideways to all those clowns and wannabes ... the Arrrrrgoooos = since 1873 - best football team out there and accept no substitutes !!!

**argolio** · 03-07-2014, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Neely2005

I think that McCown has always been pretty honest in his opinions. I've never understood the people who said that he towed the corporate line. He's also been saying for Decades that the NFL won't work in Toronto.

He hasn't been saying it won't work, but that it won't happen.

Originally Posted by argotom

It's more like $20M per game on top of the $78M paid.

That would be impossible.

Another thing McCowan said was that the renewal was for far less than $10 million a game. That makes sense for Rogers, but I don't get why the Bills settled for less.

**Ron** · 03-08-2014, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN

Seems like he was a man who just did not want to support the CFL.

Ya, all those years that Rogers was a major CFL sponsor (and at a time when it was really hard for the CFL to get anyone) were because Ted wouldn't support it.

People take the easy way out and blame Ted for stuff his underlings did. Ted was just a guy that wanted two main things. Get him market share and make him money. His underlings showed him that the Bills series will make him a lot of both. It would have been interesting to watch if Ted was still alive when the 5 year deal ended and he got neither.

**Ron** · 03-08-2014, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by rdavies

My point exactly. Yes, Ted was an ok guy, but the NFL push began under his watch and his company has benefited greatly from a regulated Canadian industry. And for them to try to bring in something foreign that is detrimental to a Canadian institution, is not on, Ted or no Ted, may he rest in peace.

NFL push? What push?

Detrimental? How has the Bills series been detrimental to the CFL or the Argos in any way?