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    Argonauts release Marcus Ball to pursue NFL opportunity

    Toronto Argonauts release Marcus Ball today to pursue NFL opportunities.
    Pretty much no one left from our championship defence!

    TSN.ca Staff
    2/17/2014 4:44:54 PM
    Marcus Ball is no longer a Toronto Argonaut.

    The 26-year-old linebacker was released by the club on Monday.

    The University of Memphis product has spent the last two seasons with the Argonauts where he was a part of the 2012 Grey Cup champion squad and returned interceptions for touchdowns in each season.

    Last November following the Argos' loss to the Hamilton Tiger-Cats in the East final, there was some speculation that Ball would seek to sign with an NFL team, something he referred to as a "dream." Ball tweeted late on Sunday night "Bout to get/take my shot... Yall pray for me... Here we go #GETBALL" potentially referring to a move south.

    Ball's release comes on the heels of the team signing of All-Star linebacker Shea Emry from the Montreal Alouettes last week.

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    Not to sound like a damn broken record..... But um you had to get McCune back NOW..... I know I know I should shut up about him but come on........ It's not like Shea is going to be able to do everything himself..... Good luck Marcus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigzee19 View Post
    Not to sound like a damn broken record..... But um you had to get McCune back NOW..... I know I know I should shut up about him but come on........ It's not like Shea is going to be able to do everything himself..... Good luck Marcus.

    I agree with you.
    Even at 35 McCune still has a lot in the tank and could have been slotted in the middle with Shea beside on either side.

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    I don't think Emry signed with the Argos to play OLB.
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    Good luck to Marcus .... for selfish reasons I'd like you back ..... but lets hope Barker , Burke and company can get this defense rolling. That is one big set of shoes to fill.

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    McCune is gone. He can only play MLB, and while Emry can play OLB, he is way more effective as a true MLB. McCune had an excellent season but Emry was every bit as good in 2012 and is younger and a non-import, plus McCune was a Jones guy. So it's a pretty easy decision to let him go.

    I'm not at all convinced Marcus will make it in the NFL -- would not be surprised if he's back by Labour Day. Other than as a special teamer, I don't think he has a natural position in 11-man football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    McCune is gone. He can only play MLB, and while Emry can play OLB, he is way more effective as a true MLB. McCune had an excellent season but Emry was every bit as good in 2012 and is younger and a non-import, plus McCune was a Jones guy. So it's a pretty easy decision to let him go.

    I'm not at all convinced Marcus will make it in the NFL -- would not be surprised if he's back by Labour Day. Other than as a special teamer, I don't think he has a natural position in 11-man football.
    That's how I see it as well Paul, once again a "goodwill" gesture by the Argonauts, might as well let him get his NFL aspirations out of the way once and for all. I feel the McCune ship has sailed as well, no choice but to get younger on defence and start fresh with the new DC.
    Sucks to see some good players leave but it does keep it interesting for sure.

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    He's not a LB in the NFL. I don't know what they're thinking in doing with him because to me he can only be a safety there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    He's not a LB in the NFL. I don't know what they're thinking in doing with him because to me he can only be a safety there.
    The thing is, there are actually two quite different positions down there -- free safety and strong safety. I don't think he's fast enough to play free, or big enough to play strong. I guess he could be a good nickel back in addition to playing special teams.

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    Yes I think Ball's position in the NFL would have to be strong safety and special teams. Major Culbert didn't look out of place the last game of the season at OLB, so he will probably be in the mix as a replacement.
    I would like to see the CFL go back to previous agreement they had with the NFL, where players could go down there in their option year and then had to come back to their CFL team if cut. Releasing players just doesn't look good in print IMO. Obviously the Argos weren't in favour of changing the rule and doesn't look like there is much unity at the owner level on this. They should be 100% one way or the other.
    Last edited by doubleblue; 02-19-2014 at 01:41 PM.

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    I understand the reasoning behind allowing Ball to tryout for the NFL, but I hate to lose him and his competitive edge. It also makes me nervous to see so many defensive bodies starting to disappear once again this year. It could lead to a repeat of the lack of coordination problems we saw last year with the Argos defence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrym View Post
    I understand the reasoning behind allowing Ball to tryout for the NFL, but I hate to lose him and his competitive edge. It also makes me nervous to see so many defensive bodies starting to disappear once again this year. It could lead to a repeat of the lack of coordination problems we saw last year with the Argos defence.
    I don't ever recall seeing a championship team lose their entire defence (for various reasons) in just over a year, pretty bizarre actually.

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    We definitely have some recruitment work to do at OLB. After Horton we have a long list of DB/LB hybrids who are useful guys but not all-star candidates IMHO.

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    I guess Marcus Ball had another year on his contract. He's now a free agent and could sign with the Ticats tomorrow, like Collaros did when he was released early and Watkins who signed with the Esks and Kuale who signed in Montreal, etc. You would hope these players appreciate the gesture by the Argos to release them from their contracts. Most CFL teams make players wait until they're free agents to tryout in the NFL...or to sign in Hamilton or Edm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invader View Post
    I guess Marcus Ball had another year on his contract. He's now a free agent and could sign with the Ticats tomorrow, like Collaros did when he was released early and Watkins who signed with the Esks and Kuale who signed in Montreal, etc. You would hope these players appreciate the gesture by the Argos to release them from their contracts. Most CFL teams make players wait until they're free agents to tryout in the NFL...or to sign in Hamilton or Edm.
    What you hope is that they show some honour to Mr Barker and the organization for treating them respectfully!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invader View Post
    I guess Marcus Ball had another year on his contract. He's now a free agent and could sign with the Ticats tomorrow, l........
    I'm thinking if Ball comes back to the CFL, it would be to follow Jones to Edmonton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argocister View Post
    I'm thinking if Ball comes back to the CFL, it would be to follow Jones to Edmonton.
    Sure - makes sense; very nice of Mr. Barker to let him go to pursue whatever is ever best for him. Wouldn't want to have any unhappy players on the roster who think they have to honor their Argo contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    Sure - makes sense; very nice of Mr. Barker to let him go to pursue whatever is ever best for him. Wouldn't want to have any unhappy players on the roster who think they have to honor their Argo contract.
    Would be a total a-hole move on Ball's part (if he even cares) to pull a stunt like that OV, but you never know with some guys!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argocister View Post
    I'm thinking if Ball comes back to the CFL, it would be to follow Jones to Edmonton.
    I guess we just have to hope that doesn't happen but you certainly raise a legitimate concern.

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    1) Watkins was not released.
    2) They knew Collaros was going to sign with another team, it was not an NFL tryout release
    3) Kuale was going to become a FA and was released early to go to the NFL. After that didn't work out, he signed with MTL weeks after Free Agency had begun so we didn't lose him. He was a FA.

    I have no problem with what the Barker has done in the past.

    Now, with all this talent the Argos are finding, they should get some sort of compensation from the NFL perhaps a transfer fee like in soccer. That would make the franchise some money. Just an idea.
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