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    Feoli-Gudino doing well, 8th in catches

    ​Julian Feoli-Gudino is doing well in Winnipeg. After two years with the Argos and no receptions, he currently ranks tied for eighth in receptions with 14. Although he is only 29th in reception yardage with 105 yards, it does raise the question of whether the Argos could have used his skills more effectively.
    His number of receptions reflects the fact that he has good hands, as demonstrated throughout his CIS career and especially in the 2011 Vanier Cup where he won the Most Valuable Player Award and made some outstanding catches.
    On the other hand, his lack of major speed means he is rarely going to be a deep threat as can be seen in his total receiving yardage.
    Nevertheless, it seems to me the Argos could have used him in second and short yardage situations, thereby taking advantage of his good hands to keep drives alive. By substituting him for Watts, who is more of a deep threat but does not have Julian's hands, or for one of the internationals without great hands in second and short, the Argos might have been able to sustain more drives, something that has been a problem in the last two years. While Owens definitely fulfills this role and has the added bonus of being able to take a short gain deep because of his speed, having another sure-handed receiver to toss to in such situations might have helped sustained drives and forced defences to either cover Feoli-Gudino as he established himself as a short threat, thereby taking some of the pressure off Owens to make such completions, or leave Julian open to make such catches.
    It also shows once again O'Shea's skills at assessing players and getting the most out of them.
    If the Argos ever replace Milanovich, O'Shea should be given prime consideration. With his long ties to the Argos and Toronto, there is a good chance the Argos could get him.

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    No surprise he is getting a shot with the Bombers, IMO. O'Shea, Walters, Miller - have also given playing time to some other CIS all-stars who got little opportunity with former regimes they played for" Teague Sherman at LB and Jake Thomas at DT are starting or playing lots for the Bombers too and doing quite well with the opportunity. Glad to see some Canadian football people in charge of a CFL team (not just one or two guys at the lower coaching levels, but key decision makers) = should mean some Canadian talent will get more chances in the good ole "radical" CFL. (O'Shea also went to Feoli-Gudino as his prime punt returner when injury struck their main guy last game - something you will rarely see nowdays - a Canadian getting to play a position that is usually reserved for imports only).

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    Imagination and nimbleness don't seem to be Milanovich's strong points.

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    The Bombers were so thin in National Talent guys like JFG were given an opportunity. Good for him for responding well. I was expecting the Argos to be criticized for releasing him sooner than this.

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    It's good to see Feoli-Gudino get a chance. With the Argos, behind Owens,Watt,Bradwell ..... There were always other options for Milanovich.
    O'Shea was familiar with JFG so he knows what he's capable of.... I think it was JFGs work on specials that got him the initial look.
    It is nice to see Canadian management, but I will believe the balance to Canadians when Winnipegs roster and starting nationals are more than the minimum. But give it a year or two....
    Don't know if anyone noticed but Alexandre got his first start out in Edmonton with Jones Defense .... We didn't seem to fit him in either.

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    "8th in catches" is true but somewhat disingenuous. JFG is also 29th in receiving yardage, behind Durie and Watt and Coombs... and Owens and Adams and Chiles.

    I'm happy that Feoli-Gudino is doing well and I hope he keeps it up. I haven't yet seen good reason to believe that we made a mistake by releasing him, though.

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    I agree with wobbler. JFG looks OK but he also dropped a sure TD pass last week when he was wide open. I'd rather have Watt's speed and Bradwell's special teams play, assuming all three couldn't be kept.

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    If 7.5 yards per catch is the best he can do, then it's not a big loss at all.

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    O'Shea had a great start in his first year coaching with the Argos too. After that, the last 2 seasons especially, the special teams weren't too special. I am happy O'Shea is off to a great start but am still very happy Milanovich is our coach and do not want it to change any time soon even if we have a disastrous season. There were many changes on this team, including in coaching, and time is needed for chemistry to take place there as well. But yes, down the road, it would be cool having O'Shea as head coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrym View Post
    ​Julian Feoli-Gudino is doing well in Winnipeg. After two years with the Argos and no receptions, he currently ranks tied for eighth in receptions with 14. Although he is only 29th in reception yardage with 105 yards, it does raise the question of whether the Argos could have used his skills more effectively.
    His number of receptions reflects the fact that he has good hands, as demonstrated throughout his CIS career and especially in the 2011 Vanier Cup where he won the Most Valuable Player Award and made some outstanding catches.
    On the other hand, his lack of major speed means he is rarely going to be a deep threat as can be seen in his total receiving yardage.
    Nevertheless, it seems to me the Argos could have used him in second and short yardage situations, thereby taking advantage of his good hands to keep drives alive. By substituting him for Watts, who is more of a deep threat but does not have Julian's hands, or for one of the internationals without great hands in second and short, the Argos might have been able to sustain more drives, something that has been a problem in the last two years. While Owens definitely fulfills this role and has the added bonus of being able to take a short gain deep because of his speed, having another sure-handed receiver to toss to in such situations might have helped sustained drives and forced defences to either cover Feoli-Gudino as he established himself as a short threat, thereby taking some of the pressure off Owens to make such completions, or leave Julian open to make such catches.
    It also shows once again O'Shea's skills at assessing players and getting the most out of them.
    If the Argos ever replace Milanovich, O'Shea should be given prime consideration. With his long ties to the Argos and Toronto, there is a good chance the Argos could get him.
    The Argos have had problems sustaining drives the last two years, Jerry? I do not agree with that premise. As for Feoli-Gudino, I can't think of anyone on the Argo receiving corps currently, especially among nationals, who I would replace with Feoli-Gudino. Having said that, good for him that he has shown a bit of progress this season.

    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    No surprise he is getting a shot with the Bombers, IMO. O'Shea, Walters, Miller - have also given playing time to some other CIS all-stars who got little opportunity with former regimes they played for" Teague Sherman at LB and Jake Thomas at DT are starting or playing lots for the Bombers too and doing quite well with the opportunity. Glad to see some Canadian football people in charge of a CFL team (not just one or two guys at the lower coaching levels, but key decision makers) = should mean some Canadian talent will get more chances in the good ole "radical" CFL. (O'Shea also went to Feoli-Gudino as his prime punt returner when injury struck their main guy last game - something you will rarely see nowdays - a Canadian getting to play a position that is usually reserved for imports only).
    Feoli-Gudino did some punt returning during the game in Regina last season and was, to put it kindly, terrible.
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    Please...give me a break. If Cory Watson wasn't injured, he would still likely have no catches. Who is he better than on the Argos recieving core? Was he going to start over Owens? Durie? Barnes? Spencer Watt has 1 less catche and 40 yards more despite playing the wide side reciever position. Feoli-Gudino is playing slot. He's a below average pro receiver, who will go back to getting no playing time on offence once Watson returns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Please...give me a break. If Cory Watson wasn't injured, he would still likely have no catches. Who is he better than on the Argos recieving core? Was he going to start over Owens? Durie? Barnes? Spencer Watt has 1 less catche and 40 yards more despite playing the wide side reciever position. Feoli-Gudino is playing slot. He's a below average pro receiver, who will go back to getting no playing time on offence once Watson returns.
    I described his as a specialist role as one of second and short yardage, something Watt, who has the speed to go deep, rarely is used for as he often drops balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrym View Post
    I described his as a specialist role as one of second and short yardage, something Watt, who has the speed to go deep, rarely is used for as he often drops balls.
    I don't know what you've been watching, but last year and this, I haven't seen Watt dropping balls. I did see Feoli-Gudino drop his share when he was given the opportunity in pre-season, and I realize pre-season isn't the be all and end all, but it certainly means a lot to bubble players, which is what Feoli-Gudino is.

    Having said all that, my respose wasn't really towards your post, but in general to the Milanovich doesn't know what he's doing thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Please...give me a break. If Cory Watson wasn't injured, he would still likely have no catches. Who is he better than on the Argos recieving core? Was he going to start over Owens? Durie? Barnes? Spencer Watt has 1 less catche and 40 yards more despite playing the wide side reciever position. Feoli-Gudino is playing slot. He's a below average pro receiver, who will go back to getting no playing time on offence once Watson returns.
    We shall see - let's track F-G's progression with the Bombers this season - maybe he is just in for Watson as an injury replacement and will be back to the bench with little playing time when Watson returns; he has at least, IMO (maybe not to you) flashed some talent this season, including a great catch for a game winning TD. We should also maybe track the progress of Argo NI receivers like Watt or Bradwell or Adjei. Wonder if the likes of Kohlert or F-G will end up with more receptions & yardage then the Argos `bubble`NI receivers, eh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    We shall see - let's track F-G's progression with the Bombers this season - maybe he is just in for Watson as an injury replacement and will be back to the bench with little playing time when Watson returns; he has at least, IMO (maybe not to you) flashed some talent this season, including a great catch for a game winning TD. We should also maybe track the progress of Argo NI receivers like Watt or Bradwell or Adjei. Wonder if the likes of Kohlert or F-G will end up with more receptions & yardage then the Argos `bubble`NI receivers, eh.
    Honestly OV, I don't think he has great hands. Watch that game winning TD again. He really bobbled that ball before he hauled it in, and he was behid the defender, so it's not like he had to worry about a hit coming. To call that a great catch is a serious exaggeration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Honestly OV, I don't think he has great hands. Watch that game winning TD again. He really bobbled that ball before he hauled it in, and he was behid the defender, so it's not like he had to worry about a hit coming. To call that a great catch is a serious exaggeration.
    It was an over the shoulder catch, with the pressure on / game winning situation and a defender was close by = great catch IMO.

    Maybe you want to defend every single personnel decision the Argos' brass make as beyond scrutiny and that's fine. F-G did not fit in the Argo plans and a coach who knew him brought him over to his new team = new opportunity, and happens in sports all the time. The guy is an all-time CIS receiving leader (I saw him play a bunch for Laval and he was impressive IMO), and just maybe he has some pretty decent receiver talent. Again though, we shall see if/how he progresses with the Bummers. Greg Alexandre is with the Esks now at DT - again, a coach who would have seen him in Jones, has given him a chance with another team. I hope the Argos can bring in some other young NI talent who didn't pan-out with their first CFL team and maybe they help the Argos too. This Argo team signed any young NI free agents for TC? - Gillanders is one i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    Maybe you want to defend every single personnel decision the Argos' brass make as beyond scrutiny and that's fine.
    OV, you don't have to jump to such obviously exaggerated/erroneous conclusions every time someone disagrees with you on a player. It is possible to agree with an Argo personnel decision without agreeing with all of them. I assume you have likely experienced that yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    OV, you don't have to jump to such obviously exaggerated/erroneous conclusions every time someone disagrees with you on a player. It is possible to agree with an Argo personnel decision without agreeing with all of them. I assume you have likely experienced that yourself.
    Sure - i agree. I'll bet you or AV have disagreed with the odd Argo personnel decision too; let us know the next time that comes up, especially to do with a NI player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    Sure - i agree. I'll bet you or AV have disagreed with the odd Argo personnel decision too; let us know the next time that comes up, especially to do with a NI player.
    For the record, I've said on here many times that Matt Black should have been looked at as a field side corner. I would prefer to see him there over safety because I think he has great cover skills, but IMO is too small to play boundary side or half, let alone safety. You can also go back over my posts for the last 2 years. Having seen Feoli-Gudino drop balls in pre-season games I was never impressed with him even as an Argo.
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    I have been to a ton of practices last year since it is was so close to me and I honestly was never that impressed with JFG. Good for him in getting a new opportunity in Winnipeg but if we could take him back today, he still wouldn't start over any of our "NATIONALS". I really think O'Shea initially brought JFG just for special teams but have since impressed on offence, especially with the lack of depth they have.
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