Concerning tweets from Arash Madani

[gilthethrill]

Does anyone live nearby the "Modular Buildings" that are in Downsview where the Argos have their offices? I would like to have an idea what they look like...does the team have a practise field there now...or soon?

Braley has been the owner since 2010 and what has he done to fix this mess? If you are a veteran player and a free agent do you sign with the Argos or do you go somewhere else where you have professional working conditions as opposed to high school ones? If this ownership situation isn't fixed by the end of the calendar year, the Argos will likely lose Milanovich at least and will have trouble retaining and attracting free agents. And who is going to want to step into this mess and be the head coach? Bart Andrus again?

No, Bart Andrus was recently named the HC of a Community College in Northern California, Three Feathers Community College I believe, so stroke him off the list of coaches who may succeed a departed, disgrunted Milanovich....

[ArgoGabe22]

Now Naylor has his say - http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=460986

[Neely2005]

I hope that the negative media attention - and, frankly, it appears to be accurate - will spur the league and Braley to rectify this situation by the end of the calendar year at the very latest. Gary Lawless has a good piece in the Winnipeg Free Press about the Braley problem: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...273890611.html

Another must read for Argonauts fans.

[AngeloV]

Well this thread is getting more and more depressing as it goes. Hopefully, those that questioned my defence of Milanovich can now somewhat understand my stance.

I would love to hear Braley publically address the situation, but perhaps the only person he would let in on his thoughts is his biggest defender Invader.

[Neely2005]

Well this thread is getting more and more depressing as it goes. Hopefully, those that questioned my defence of Milanovich can now somewhat understand my stance.

I would love to hear Braley publically address the situation, but perhaps the only person he would let in on his thoughts is his biggest defender Invader.

If you're referring to my I agreed with you about Milanovich. I just didn't agree with the way that you presented your opinion.

There are some quotes from Braley in the TSN article from Dave Naylor. (Post # 62 above)

[AngeloV]

If you're referring to my I agreed with you about Milanovich. I just didn't agree with the way that you presented your opinion.

There are some quotes from Braley in the TSN article from Dave Naylor. (Post # 62 above)

Thanks for that link. I must have missed originally. I was not referring to you. I get that some people don't like the way I posted what I did. It's the misguided abuse that Milanovich has taken that I was referring to.

[paulwoods13]

Madani feels the need to take a potshot at TSN now as if his employer actually cares about the CFL and the Argos.

I don't see that as a potshot at TSN at all. It is him pointing out that even the rights-holder (which in theory would be inclined to paper over problems) is reporting on the problems. When your biggest partner reports that the sky is falling, the sky really is falling. I have no evidence for this but I believe there has been a concerted effort this week by the league and Argo football ops to get this stuff into print, to put pressure on Braley. Nothing else seems to be working.

[R.J]

http://www.tsn.ca/VideoHub/?collection=72&show=432542

[Qman]

I don't see that as a potshot at TSN at all. It is him pointing out that even the rights-holder (which in theory would be inclined to paper over problems) is reporting on the problems. When your biggest partner reports that the sky is falling, the sky really is falling. I have no evidence for this but I believe there has been a concerted effort this week by the league and Argo football ops to get this stuff into print, to put pressure on Braley. Nothing else seems to be working.

AM is right. This is a orchestrated public shaming of Braley by the league. I guess Cohen is trying to jump start MLSE talks

[Stevoman]

Yeah, this is a depressing thread but I do think that it's mostly accurate and I worry for the state of the franchise. Hopefully the players can use an "us against the world" or an "us against our owner" attitude and do it for the guys in the locker room.

[Argo57]

AM is right. This is a orchestrated public shaming of Braley by the league. I guess Cohen is trying to jump start MLSE talks

If it truly is orchestrated (which I think it is) then good, keep turning up the heat!!
I think seeing (and opening 2 stadiums) this season has hit home with the Argonaut players how crappy their plight is currently.
As I have said before, I truly feel badly for Milanovich his coaching staff and Barker who are trying to hold things together and win ball games. If they leave (which sadly is a distinct possibility) what quality of coaching staff and GM do you think will replace them.

[Qman]

If it truly is orchestrated (which I think it is) then good, keep turning up the heat!!
I think seeing (and opening 2 stadiums) this season has hit home with the Argonaut players how crappy their plight is currently.
As I have said before, I truly feel badly for Milanovich his coaching staff and Barker who are trying to hold things together and win ball games. If they leave (which sadly is a distinct possibility) what quality of coaching staff and GM do you think will replace them.

Braley has basically cut the budget to where he is break-even or marginally profitable. Lets say $16M operating budge down to $13M (including player cuts) + the $3M from the TV increase.

The league office is trying to stir the pot and get Braley of his high horse to get his price down. This is all Cohen ... maybe some BOG members. No way this is all over TSN's webpage if the league is not involved.

[shayman]

TSN's Matthew Scianatti tweeted a few pix of the Downsview facility today.

Aaargh, fighting with this for 20 minutes, how do you embed a tweet as in the first post in this thread? anyway - picture of the facility and neighbouring field here

https://twitter.com/TSNScianitti/sta...69724629082112

https://twitter.com/TSNScianitti/sta...70501020688384

[ArgoRavi]

A transfer of ownership absolutely has to get done by December at the very latest. If it doesn't get done by then, the Argos will likely lose Milanovich and, possibly, Barker and will be hard-pressed to find anyone good to take the job of running this team, free agents will be difficult to retain and attract, no marketing of the team will be done in the off-season and few tickets will be sold, and the 2015 season may be 10 times worse than this one has been.

Some good incentive for Braley to get a deal done is that I am sure he doesn't want to have his Vancouver Grey Cup overshadowed by the Argos' problems, especially as ticket sales have been sluggish. If he wants the Grey Cup to be about the game itself rather than the Argos' problems, he should get a deal done by the end of October.

[Neely2005]

It looks like a school portable to me.

[larz-7]

Well this thread is getting more and more depressing as it goes. Hopefully, those that questioned my defence of Milanovich can now somewhat understand my stance.

I would love to hear Braley publically address the situation, but perhaps the only person he would let in on his thoughts is his biggest defender Invader.

there was an artical on tsn about some of the vets on this team totally bitching about everything but stand by their coach and what he has to overcome everyday

A transfer of ownership absolutely has to get done by December at the very latest. If it doesn't get done by then, the Argos will likely lose Milanovich and, possibly, Barker and will be hard-pressed to find anyone good to take the job of running this team, free agents will be difficult to retain and attract, no marketing of the team will be done in the off-season and few tickets will be sold, and the 2015 season may be 10 times worse than this one has been.

Some good incentive for Braley to get a deal done is that I am sure he doesn't want to have his Vancouver Grey Cup overshadowed by the Argos' problems, especially as ticket sales have been sluggish. If he wants the Grey Cup to be about the game itself rather than the Argos' problems, he should get a deal done by the end of October.

fact is Braley will make money on this years greycup regardless of what the problems in TO are.fact is he is still paying bills for the argos so very hard to pull team from him..yes if the league could some how run the team it would still be run the same (low budget)the big player in the game is TSN they are paying the new contract and without TO that money wont be there.Seem they have already started with articals about vets on the argos angry ,i hate reading them but i think it has to be said.sooner then later something will be done

[Neely2005]

I don't see that as a potshot at TSN at all. It is him pointing out that even the rights-holder (which in theory would be inclined to paper over problems) is reporting on the problems. When your biggest partner reports that the sky is falling, the sky really is falling. I have no evidence for this but I believe there has been a concerted effort this week by the league and Argo football ops to get this stuff into print, to put pressure on Braley. Nothing else seems to be working.

Hopefully it works and doesn't backfire. It could just make Braley more stubborn and obstinate.

[294life]

I ain't worried about the Argos. They are immortal.

[1argoholic]

Sitting at the Calgary home game had me depressed. The future looked bleak with that tiny crowd. I haven't felt so low about my Argonauts and the future ever. I think everyone believes that somehow a miracle will happen and we'll magically be put in a new beautiful 30 thou seat stadium in the perfect location. Seems to me Braley has given up after his first attempt at selling the team. Seems like the whole organization is having it's life sucked out very slowly. If Ottawa can fold twice why can't we? Should Braley just wait around while nothing happens and we die a slow painful death it will indeed change my life. I will be finished wasting my time watching professional sports. The Argos are the only pro team that I really care about deep down.

[Mulder]

I don't see that as a potshot at TSN at all. It is him pointing out that even the rights-holder (which in theory would be inclined to paper over problems) is reporting on the problems. When your biggest partner reports that the sky is falling, the sky really is falling.

This isn't the first time he's called out "TSN" on twitter.

Do you think calling out your colleagues in the media world is going to earn you any respect? Matthew Scianitti reply pretty much sums out how TSN and the CFL world feels about that clown.

Great work today from @garylawless & @TSNDaveNaylor on #Argos & Braley Honest, classy reporters.

— Matthew Scianitti (@TSNScianitti) September 4, 2014