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    September 13, 2014: Toronto Argonauts vs. Calgary Stampeders

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    I'm thinking ..... Coming off the bye, we've had time for some good soul searching ..... Good planning.... Good rest .... A good week of practice at one location ... Some key offensive threats anxious to play hard ..... I think it's time for the Stamps to be brought down to earth by the East and who better to do it than Ricky and the Argonauts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argocister View Post
    I'm thinking ..... Coming off the bye, we've had time for some good soul searching ..... Good planning.... Good rest .... A good week of practice at one location ... Some key offensive threats anxious to play hard ..... I think it's time for the Stamps to be brought down to earth by the East and who better to do it than Ricky and the Argonauts!
    Good outlook! I also think it provides a great opportunity to hit the "reset" button and come back a better team. I think we will see a much improved side, losing a close one to the Stamps.

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    That's the spirit, guys! The bye certainly gives us a chance to get most of the key elements relatively healthy and the coaching staff time to watch game film and make adjustments. Having Owens and Durie back will certainly help the offence (you could almost see Ricky looking in vain for Durie as the pressure overwhelmed him). I do think serious adjustments are needed on the O-line. Ray is only effective when he has time to make his reads and throw the ball and he isn't being given that opportunity consistently enough. The defence is improving over the course of the season and special teams are doing their part (especially Waters, who's the best punter/PK in the league right now). Just "Pull Together", boys, and we'll straighten this thing out (is 9-9 too much to wish for?)!

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    Calgary will be coming off back to back games against their Provincial rival and may be banged up. If we have Owens and Durie back, which I believe we will, I see this as a trap game for the Stampeders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilthethrill View Post
    Calgary will be coming off back to back games against their Provincial rival and may be banged up. If we have Owens and Durie back, which I believe we will, I see this as a trap game for the Stampeders.
    I was thinking the exact same thing, gil. Also, the Argos have fared well in Calgary in recent years as they haven't lost a game there since 2010.
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    Don't see us winning this one but am hoping for a much better fight with hopefully some healthy bodies back!

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    I used to hate Argo road trips to McMahon because they would always lose. Recently, the team has had a bit of success there and hopefully Durie and Owens are back, but it isn't going to matter if the offensive line continues to be offensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by argofan87 View Post
    I used to hate Argo road trips to McMahon because they would always lose. Recently, the team has had a bit of success there and hopefully Durie and Owens are back, but it isn't going to matter if the offensive line continues to be offensive.
    If we get some bodies back (Owens, Durie, Chiles) etc it will give the whole team a huge lift, including the O-Line, you will also have guys in there that know the Argo system inside-out. They will be able to expand their play book again and receivers will be running the correct routes which most importantly will benefit Ray.
    This will take more than one game to correct but if the returning guys can stay healthy (and that's a big if) and the D continues to progress and develop more chemistry then we should be ok.
    Unfortunately in this frustrating season so far none do us are exactly sure what the Argonauts are for sure.
    Hopefully better days ahead!!!

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    Although the return of Owens and Durie are extremely important to the Argos hopes over the rest of the season, I think that an improved ground game is also vital. This is especially true with regard to the most talented team in the CFL. The Stampeders will simply pin their ears and rush Ray through a weak offensive line, often getting to him before he can find anyone unless the Argos establish a ground attack early in the game that makes Calgary pay when it ignores the run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrym View Post
    Although the return of Owens and Durie are extremely important to the Argos hopes over the rest of the season, I think that an improved ground game is also vital. This is especially true with regard to the most talented team in the CFL. The Stampeders will simply pin their ears and rush Ray through a weak offensive line, often getting to him before he can find anyone unless the Argos establish a ground attack early in the game that makes Calgary pay when it ignores the run.
    That's a great point Jerry, unfortunately I don't think any of our RB's concern anyone on the league, that is one position I hope Rosetti and staff have been scouring at the NFL camps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    That's a great point Jerry, unfortunately I don't think any of our RB's concern anyone on the league, that is one position I hope Rosetti and staff have been scouring at the NFL camps.
    My comment was more an optimistic hope. While I don't think we have good RBs, I am also frustrated by Milanovich's virtual abandoning of the run on an ongoing basis, which puts even more strain on a relatively weak O-line.

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    To be fair, in the games where the Argos run was working (Saskatchewan and Winnipeg home games) the Argos did run a fair bit. It's difficult to commit to the run when you are getting gains of around 1 or 2 yards on first down. It puts a lot of pressure on the line to hold their blocks longer on 2nd and long situations. Of course, with the depleted line-up, it has been a catch 22, as the inconsistency of the receiving core has meant a lot of 2nd and longs anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    To be fair, in the games where the Argos run was working (Saskatchewan and Winnipeg home games) the Argos did run a fair bit. It's difficult to commit to the run when you are getting gains of around 1 or 2 yards on first down. It puts a lot of pressure on the line to hold their blocks longer on 2nd and long situations. Of course, with the depleted line-up, it has been a catch 22, as the inconsistency of the receiving core has meant a lot of 2nd and longs anyways.
    In watching the Montreal game today, the Als got into a lot of trouble running the ball consistently on first down in the first half. They weren't getting any more than a yard or two which forced them into second and long and they struggled. Defences in this league now are just too good on second and long that you really can't stick with a running game that isn't working for very long. Ottawa had similar problems on Friday night as well.
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    Hard not to have envy with all of the new stadiums popping up and great coaching in the west right now. We've lost big talent on the field and in the coaching ranks.
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    I think that the Argos can put up a fight, if Owens and Durie are back. At the same time first game back for both of them will I doubt they will be in their regular form. I don't think that they walk out of Calgary with a W.

    The Stamps are too good in all aspects of the game right now and Jon Cornish is now back and looking good. It's going to be a very tough test for our defense to contain the Stamps O.

    As some of you have already touched on it will be important for the Argos to get the run game going. When all the receivers went down I was expecting the Argos to lean more heavily on the run than they have. I don't think that our RB's aren't talented but rather the Oline has let them down a little. Throw in that the Argos are usually chasing the game and it doesn't lend itself to an establish the run game mentality. Rhythm is important for RB's and Slaton or Steele are never able to get into one. Even if the wideouts can stretch the field a bit and give some dump off opportunities to the backs it could go a long way to help them get in the groove of the game.

    The Stamps D is tough as nails. If the Argos are going to have a hope they need a great game from their O.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stouffvillain View Post
    I think that the Argos can put up a fight, if Owens and Durie are back. At the same time first game back for both of them will I doubt they will be in their regular form. I don't think that they walk out of Calgary with a W.

    The Stamps are too good in all aspects of the game right now and Jon Cornish is now back and looking good. It's going to be a very tough test for our defense to contain the Stamps O.

    As some of you have already touched on it will be important for the Argos to get the run game going. When all the receivers went down I was expecting the Argos to lean more heavily on the run than they have. I don't think that our RB's aren't talented but rather the Oline has let them down a little. Throw in that the Argos are usually chasing the game and it doesn't lend itself to an establish the run game mentality. Rhythm is important for RB's and Slaton or Steele are never able to get into one. Even if the wideouts can stretch the field a bit and give some dump off opportunities to the backs it could go a long way to help them get in the groove of the game.

    The Stamps D is tough as nails. If the Argos are going to have a hope they need a great game from their O.
    That one sentence that I have bolded certainly caught my eye as that has been a huge problem for this team this season. In the seven games that they have lost, they have been behind for much of the time, if not the entire time, in most of those games. Just looking at the three game losing streak that they are currently on, the Argos only led briefly early in the fourth quarter against B.C. and in the first quarter against Edmonton and have been behind otherwise. It is tough to play from behind almost constantly.

    I think that the Argos will be better this week and I am hoping that the Stamps may be due for a letdown after their Labour Day week sweep of Edmonton. Hopefully the Argos can do to Calgary this week what the Stamps did to the Argos back in '83 after Toronto beat Hamilton at Ivor Wynne 50-16.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1argoholic View Post
    It's very obvious that Milanovich is more conservative then our very conservative PM. Wouldn't it be nice to see a trick play?
    Our O line has been crap the last three weeks. ..........
    I think Milanovich would go for the trick plays .... I think he has to have confidence in them. I'm not sure whether its the players or the schemes this year, maybe both, but I think he doesn't have the confidence in them. I believe he would use them if he could be sure of the execution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stouffvillain View Post

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    The Stamps D is tough as nails. If the Argos are going to have a hope they need a great game from their O.
    This will be the key to the game on Sat. .... I believe our D will hold its own, .... okay maybe our specials have to be good too and help Swayze out. He can't carry them all the way.

    And the Argos Oline has to be amazing!

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    We won't have Chiles on Saturday, but it seems all but certain that several guys *will* be back on offense. The defensive secondary could be pretty different too; it'll be interesting to see if any of Suber, McCollough, and Johnson get into the lineup.

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    It looks like the winter weather Calgary is experiencing will have subsided and it looks like good weather for football. I thought Owens who was doubtful for Labour Day would be ready to go after a bye week.

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