PTS just now. McGown and Brunt are confident........

[AngeloV]

If the CFL had to face the kinds of problems that the NFL has faced over the last couple of years including this one and the Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson situations, the Canadian media in general would be saying "bush league" more than we can count. It is incredible though just how much national media attention that these events have received here in Canada.

That all goes back to what I've been saying for years, Ravi. The problem the CFL has, especially in this market, is that people tend to relate quality with money. Since the NFL strike in '83, the salaries down there skyrocketed to amounts the CFL will never even dream of. For that reason, to the minds of many of today's generation, the CFL will be looked at as bush league. These people are idiots.

[LLB997]

If the CFL had to face the kinds of problems that the NFL has faced over the last couple of years including this one and the Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson situations, the Canadian media in general would be saying "bush league" more than we can count. It is incredible though just how much national media attention that these events have received here in Canada.

You have no idea how right you are, Anti CFL types still bring up the drafting a dead guy thing from 20 years ago, meanwhile, NFL balls have no air, and the lights go out at the championship game itself all within the last 2 years and this is the league we should all strive to emulate ? haha.
I think the argument that there is no CFL to talk being the reason TSN radio talks NFL is nonsense. There is no NFL to talk either, Just controversy and off field drama. TSN radio is akin to Days of our Lives, garbage radio as is the fan.
I listen to the fan NYC, and although not a huge Baseball fan, they actually talk the sport and not the circus surrounding it like the "sports personalities" in this town.

1050 and 590, you can have them.

[johnnyice]

I don't think anyone is in denial about the unfortunate situation the Argonauts are in, but you'll find that many are still skeptical of anything a Rogers employee says about the Canadian Football League.

Absolutely correct !

[argos1873]

I'm pretty sure the marketing "geniuses" who decide what's put on air know their demographics. Gamblers and hype monkeys. I've listened to guys like Mike Hogan, and I know if guys like him had carte blanche he would only talk about things that he was interested in, and/or was knowledgeable in and/or that *true sports fans were interested in. That probably played out fine when there were so many independent media outlets. Now that nearly every major media outlet is owned by a few select conglomerates, there are only 2 things that are important. Ratings, and corporate propaganda. Guys like Hogan are only around still because he's a pretty damn knowledgeable guy, that people from many sports backgrounds respect. The people who replace him will be more often than not corporate shills. Someone needs to resurrect Jim Hunt. Damn I loved that guy.

[jerrym]

I'm pretty sure the marketing "geniuses" who decide what's put on air know their demographics. Gamblers and hype monkeys. I've listened to guys like Mike Hogan, and I know if guys like him had carte blanche he would only talk about things that he was interested in, and/or was knowledgeable in and/or that *true sports fans were interested in. That probably played out fine when there were so many independent media outlets. Now that nearly every major media outlet is owned by a few select conglomerates, there are only 2 things that are important. Ratings, and corporate propaganda. Guys like Hogan are only around still because he's a pretty damn knowledgeable guy, that people from many sports backgrounds respect. The people who replace him will be more often than not corporate shills. Someone needs to resurrect Jim Hunt. Damn I loved that guy.

While I wouldn't agree that what you said is true in every case, you couldn't have said it better.

[argos1873]

While I wouldn't agree that what you said is true in every case, you couldn't have said it better.

Nothing is true in every case, just generally speaking. But thanks.

[paulwoods13]

Ratings have been important since the dawn of radio. Not just since consolidation of ownership.

[zontar]

So any mea culpas from either Brunt or Mccowan ?

[BATKINSON001]

So any mea culpas from either Brunt or Mccowan ?

Not sure what that means but all McCown is doing is slagging the argos even more.

[ArgoRavi]

Where is Brunt these days anyway? I haven't heard hide nor hair of him in a while.

[zontar]

Where is Brunt these days anyway? I haven't heard hide nor hair of him in a while.

Dissapears to NFLD for fishing this time of year i think

Not sure what that means but all McCown is doing is slagging the argos even more.

Mea culpa - as in - I was wrong about it. What has McCowan been saying ?



I understand the need for a media know it all not to be proven wrong but I dont understand McCowans lust for argo / CFL failure. Goes way beyond Rogers' institutional bias .

Who/what/how/when from the league or Argos whizzed on his pant leg ? Did he get stiffed for free GC tickets ? "Windows" wont rip up his bar tab anymore ?

[ArgoRavi]

I understand the need for a media know it all not to be proven wrong but I dont understand McCowans lust for argo / CFL failure. Goes way beyond Rogers' institutional bias .

Who/what/how/when from the league or Argos whizzed on his pant leg ? Did he get stiffed for free GC tickets ? "Windows" wont rip up his bar tab anymore ?

If I were to guess, he has a grudge against the league because it was revealed that Braley bankrolled McCown's buddies, Cynamon and Sokolowski. Also, he is still upset about the league not reintroducing gate equalization payments (i.e., revenue sharing) when C & S asked for it just before selling the team to Braley. Finally, McCown was on the 2007 Grey Cup committee and, while that Grey Cup was a success, he is upset that the 2012 Grey Cup is seen as a larger success and that the federal government gave the 2012 Grey Cup committee additional funds to work with.

[BATKINSON001]

If I were to guess, he has a grudge against the league because it was revealed that Braley bankrolled McCown's buddies, Cynamon and Sokolowski. Also, he is still upset about the league not reintroducing gate equalization payments (i.e., revenue sharing) when C & S asked for it just before selling the team to Braley. Finally, McCown was on the 2007 Grey Cup committee and, while that Grey Cup was a success, he is upset that the 2012 Grey Cup is seen as a larger success and that the federal government gave the 2012 Grey Cup committee additional funds to work with.

wasn't there also something about him not being on the 2012 grey cup committee that he's ticked about too?

[AngeloV]

I understand the need for a media know it all not to be proven wrong but I dont understand McCowans lust for argo / CFL failure. Goes way beyond Rogers' institutional bias .

Who/what/how/when from the league or Argos whizzed on his pant leg ? Did he get stiffed for free GC tickets ? "Windows" wont rip up his bar tab anymore ?

I think there are 2 things that can pinpoint McCowan's ant CFL feelings.
1)He had a group in the running to get a franchise in Las Vegas during the US expansion era and the league chose Nick Mileti's group instead. Poor choice by the league, but no proof McCowan's group would have done better.
2) The way his buddies C&S left as owners. I really think he took that personally.

[Will]

I recall McCown and Cox speaking positively of the Argos at the beginning of the C & S ownership. The turning point, I guess, for most of the FAN personalities was whenever (i) Braley took over the team and (ii) the radio rights went to TSN 1050 and pro-CFL personalities such as Hogan and Landry were let go.