Rogers Hate Thread

[rdavies]

I see you've posted the above at a few places. A little hard to believe isn't it? Especially when you have to do all those "make goods"

[Neely2005]

I see you've posted the above at a few places. A little hard to believe isn't it? Especially when you have to do all those "make goods"

Not at all. Rogers is a publicly traded company, if the CEO lies about financial matters it's illegal. I doubt he's going to risk that.

Also it's the regular season and playoff numbers that determine the return. Not just the playoffs.

[argolio]

Not at all. Rogers is a publicly traded company, if the CEO lies about financial matters it's illegal. I doubt he's going to risk that.

It's only illegal if Rogers files fraudulent financial info. Plenty of executives have issued public predictions that didn't come to fruition. And the way Rogers moves money around, they'll almost certainly never admit losing money on the NHL deal even if they do.

[Neely2005]

It's only illegal if Rogers files fraudulent financial info. Plenty of executives have issued public predictions that didn't come to fruition. And the way Rogers moves money around, they'll almost certainly never admit losing money on the NHL deal even if they do.

He was on the Investors Call discussing the just released Rogers Q1 results when he said that. Do you really think that he's going to risk lying on an Investors Call which is a matter of public record?

[argolio]

He was on the Investors Call discussing the just released Rogers Q1 results when he said that. Do you really think that he's going to risk lying on an Investors Call which is a matter of public record?

What risk? Again, it's very likely we'll never know if they end up losing money.

[Neely2005]

What risk? Again, it's very likely we'll never know if they end up losing money.

Giving false information to investors about a publicly traded company is punishable by the OSC & the SEC.

[argolio]

Giving false information to investors about a publicly traded company is punishable by the OSC & the SEC.

So why didn't anyone go after Rogers for lying through their teeth about the profitability of the Bills in Toronto games? Seems pretty obvious that those kinds of general statements to the public ("we made/are making money from this particular deal") don't rise to anything that is punishable by the OSC.

[AngeloV]

Also it's the regular season and playoff numbers that determine the return. Not just the playoffs.

All you need to do is look at the first round of the playoffs to know Rogers is losing a boat load of money on this deal. In the first round, despite showing all 8 series, they only used their own broadcast and production crews on 3 of the 8 series. They simulcasted local feeds on the other 5.

[PullTogether73]

All you need to do is look at the first round of the playoffs to know Rogers is losing a boat load of money on this deal. In the first round, despite showing all 8 series, they only used their own broadcast and production crews on 3 of the 8 series. They simulcasted local feeds on the other 5.

All that proves is that they are trying to save money on production costs.

Edit: the news story above in post #121 says that Rogers has production crews for 4 of the round 1 series, not 3 (not that this changes the production savings point materially).

[Will]

All that proves is that they are trying to save money on production costs.

I agree that it is only logical that Rogers would simulcast some of the series given that there are no Canadian teams involved, but you'd have to think that it was also motivated by the realization that no Canadian teams = trouble.

[R.J]

All you need to do is look at the first round of the playoffs to know Rogers is losing a boat load of money on this deal. In the first round, despite showing all 8 series, they only used their own broadcast and production crews on 3 of the 8 series. They simulcasted local feeds on the other 5.

TSN used to do that as well with the American teams. CBC is/was the only one to always use their own guys.