Global Climate Change

[Neely2005]

Has something changed recently to make this a pressing issue? Are Cdns wimpier than we used to be? The Grey Cup has been played in late November (even December at times) for at least 50 years. Climate change data suggests that the weather is warmer now than it used to be, on average. So why the sudden "it's too cold for football" bleating from out west?

Not really:

Global Temperature Update: No global warming for 17 years 11 months… or 19 years, according to a key statistical paper



http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/09/...ars-11-months/

[paulwoods13]

Global Temperature Update: No global warming for 17 years 11 months… or 19 years, according to a key statistical paper



http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/09/...ars-11-months/

For the record, that site is not a scientific journal -- in fact, it's a site created specifically for the purpose of promoting the idea that climate change is a myth. But who cares? Even if the average temperature hasn't budged in 20 years, why is there suddenly a need to stop playing football in cold weather?

[Rich]

Not really:

Global Temperature Update: No global warming for 17 years 11 months… or 19 years, according to a key statistical paper



http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/09/...ars-11-months/

Wow, a climate change denier. Didn't think there were many left. Do you still believe the world is flat, Neely2005?

[Neely2005]

For the record, that site is not a scientific journal -- in fact, it's a site created specifically for the purpose of promoting the idea that climate change is a myth. But who cares? Even if the average temperature hasn't budged in about 20 years, why is there suddenly a need to stop playing football in cold weather?

That doesn't change the fact that the temperatures around the world have Not increased in 20 Years. Contrary to what you had stated.

The reason is because judging by the attendance of late season and playoff games people don't want to sit outside in the cold.

Wow, a climate change denier. Didn't think there were many left. Do you still believe the world is flat, Neely2005?

First it was Global Cooling, then it was Global Warming, now it's Climate Change. All I know is that they were wrong about the first two and there computer models have been proven wrong for the last 20 years or so. Their own data shows no increase in global temperatures for the last 20 years or so and the Arctic Ice Sheets have been increasing for the past few years.

[paulwoods13]

That doesn't change the fact that the temperatures around the world have Not increased in 20 Years. Contrary to what you had stated.

Well, call me crazy or in denial, but I don't accept a "fact" that is based on selective review of data and presented by an organization that obviously has a particular axe to grind. Have temps increased or decreased in the past 20 years? Don't know, don't care, and definitely don't plan to reach an opinion on that based on this particular website.

[Neely2005]

Well, call me crazy or in denial, but I don't accept a "fact" that is based on selective review of data and presented by an organization that obviously has a particular axe to grind. Have temps increased or decreased in the past 20 years? Don't know, don't care, and definitely don't plan to reach an opinion on that based on this particular website.

They've decreased and this website is far from the only source. Even the climate change scientists admit (albeit reluctantly) that temperatures have not increased globally over the past 20 years and their computer models and predictions have been consistently wrong.

[T-Bone]

First it was Global Cooling, then it was Global Warming, now it's Climate Change. All I know is that they were wrong about the first two and there computer models have been proven wrong for the last 20 years or so. Their own data shows no increase in global temperatures for the last 20 years or so and the Arctic Ice Sheets have been increasing for the past few years.

I'm just going to leave this here for you: Global Climate Change

And this:

[Neely2005]

I'm just going to leave this here for you: Global Climate Change

And this:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/ar...p-50-1.2465952

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...cle_top10_read

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ling-cover-up/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...high-saturday/

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/02...e-in-20-years/

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews...02-074402.html

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews...28-092054.html

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews...11-114209.html

"Back in September, even the UN's official climate change propagandists, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) could no longer ignore the fact that global temperatures had not risen for close to two decades. Despite the UN's computer models forecasting temperature gains of nearly half a degree Celsius over that time, the global average temperature had stubbornly refused to budge up or down for 18 years."

[Argocister]

Change in global temperatures over a small time of 20 years does not constitute global climate change ... that timeline is way too small.
Here is a reading list from a well respected magazine, for your perusal. I am not going to debate this type of an issue on a football forum. There are way too many different backgrounds. But it is interesting that the intelligent Argofans are willing to discuss these issues ..... We may not be very loud and stand up for our team but we are smart! .... and probably good looking too ! (I may be biased)

http://www.scientificamerican.com/se...display=search

[Double Dare]

Vote Harper ... he will help clean up the environment, because he is a true believer in climate change ... NOT

[argonaut11xx]

According to AL GORE , the earth should have been pretty much dead by now.....(just like in the movies).

How could AL GORE be wrong about this, AL GORE invented the internet (according to him).

Climate change is REAL, how else would guys like Gore and Suzuki get rich?

[ArgoZ]

It's impossible to correctly predict the future weather of the planet, because we have only been recording/monitoring it since the 20's I believe. The bible says there will be increased earthquakes in the end days. If your not religious, what science do you go by? Scientific theories always seem to be debunked by new science. The Earth is supposably over 5 billions of years old. We are only a blimp in its existence and do not completely know it's cycles, the way it reacts or heals itself. It's unfortunate, but almost every study or survey is full of propaganda and hidden motives, which is often financial.

In school, I remember we were heading for another ice age. Now, they claim we are going to get torched. One fact I found interesting is that while the North Pole has melted considerably, Antarctica has actually increased! Figure that one out.

Go Argos!

[Argo57]

Anyone with half a brain knows global warming is caused by the Methane gas from cows farting.
Scientific fact!!

[argonaut11xx]

Anyone with half a brain knows global warming is caused by the Methane gas from cows farting.
Scientific fact!!

Correct, as it was dinosaur farts that caused the Ice Age.

Mother Nature is a plucky old broad, she can handle anything

[T-Bone]

Scientific theories always seem to be debunked by new science.

That's because that's how science works. As we learn more, science goes back and corrects its mistakes. Science is a learning process, if new evidence is presented and holds up to testing then it is accepted as fact.

It's unfortunate, but almost every study or survey is full of propaganda and hidden motives, which is often financial.

Scientists present facts based on multipal experiments that show the same results. Propaganda is put out to distort facts. Who do you think has more to lose financially in this global climate change "debate," the scientists or those involved in the fossil fuel industry?

Correct, as it was dinosaur farts that caused the Ice Age.

Mother Nature is a plucky old broad, she can handle anything

I don't think many scientists are claiming that earth won't survive climate change. Like the dinosaurs before us, are we next?

[argonaut11xx]

Climate Change is not a bad thing....it has been happening as long as the earth has been here....

The "Global Warming" lobbyists are a complete other story,

Both sides have "scientists"...its "Green Business vs Big Business"...no difference except the greens PAY the homeless to protest, while the supports of the big business side, are usually at work, and dont have time to protest.

[1argoholic]

Religious types like Harper believe that you can rape the environment and somehow a god will fix it all. Bunk!!! Just tell the folks in the far north that climate change is crap.Pretty sure their way of life is a hell of a lot more affected then ours. I don't need solid pack ice to hunt seals. Everything humans touch turns to shite when it comes to our environment. I'm just glad I'll be dead.

[T-Bone]

Climate Change is not a bad thing....it has been happening as long as the earth has been here....

The "Global Warming" lobbyists are a complete other story,

Both sides have "scientists"...its "Green Business vs Big Business"...no difference except the greens PAY the homeless to protest, while the supports of the big business side, are usually at work, and dont have time to protest.

Are you claiming the fossil fuel industry doesn't lobby?

Religious types like Harper believe that you can rape the environment and somehow a god will fix it all. Bunk!!! Just tell the folks in the far north that climate change is crap.Pretty sure their way of life is a hell of a lot more affected then ours. I don't need solid pack ice to hunt seals. Everything humans touch turns to shite when it comes to our environment. I'm just glad I'll be dead.

Catholic bishops lobby for end to fossil fuels, UN agrees to climate change negotiations.

[Wobbler]

The current round of international negotiations (in Lima) are unlikely to produce a breakthrough, but new commitments to CO2/methane emission reduction targets will probably be announced and at least that's something. And... I'd like to believe that even anthropogenic climate change-deniers can get behind the elimination of coal extraction and combustion. That needs to happen ASAP, for a long list of reasons.

[Wobbler]

An imperfect deal has been reached. I hope that this can be built upon.