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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Secondary is definitely a concern, but if the new rules are implemented as the league says they will, I think every secondary in the league may have big concerns.
    I was thinking that same thing this morning, AV. I would not be surprised to see average scores go back up to over 60 points per game this season which would be the highest per game average in over 20 years

    Ultimately, the key for the Argos on defence will be what kind of pressure they can get with their front four. If they can get lots of pressure with their front four, it will make Creehan's job much easier.
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    No worries ! It's not like Burke was a STUBLER or Jones......

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyice View Post
    No worries ! It's not like Burke was a STUBLER or Jones......
    While Jones had success, he was one of the most frustrating to watch. Always had confidence in Stubler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    I remember going to the Ex with my dad at that age not having a clue what was going on, I'm proud to pass my love of our game on to my son who cant get enough of the CFL and his Ticats.
    On a side note the 2012 season actually ended on a high note for him as he was chosen to accompany Grover Covington onto the field when he was named to the All-Time Hamilton Tiger Cats team before the last game at Ivor Wynne.
    That's awesome. Your only failure seems to be passing on your love of the Argos, but hey, we can't be perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argos1873 View Post
    That's awesome. Your only failure seems to be passing on your love of the Argos, but hey, we can't be perfect.
    Cleo Lemon prompted the switch to the Ticats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    Cleo Lemon prompted the switch to the Ticats.
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    The significant difference between Mouse Davis' departure in 1983 and Tim Burke's departure in 2015 is that in 1983 you had one of the most talented offenses in the Canadian Football League. The Argos' defense of 2015 will have areas where the starters will lack CFL experience.
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    That's one significant difference. Another (more significant IMO) is that Mouse Davis's offence was incredibly successful and innovative. Tim Burke's defence was neither. It astounds me that folks here are so upset about his departure. What did the defence do last year to warrant such a response to the DC's resignation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    That's one significant difference. Another (more significant IMO) is that Mouse Davis's offence was incredibly successful and innovative. Tim Burke's defence was neither. It astounds me that folks here are so upset about his departure. What did the defence do last year to warrant such a response to the DC's resignation?
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    I'm going to wait and see before I jump all over Creehan. He wouldn't be the first coach that got off to a rocky start in his career to turn things around with more experience. Orlondo Steinauer's D was not great as an Argo coach, and he went back to ST co-ordinator when Milo and Jones came here. He seemed to have learned a thing or 2 since then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by argofan87 View Post
    His replacement.
    Sorry but that has little to do with the job Burke did as coordinator in 2014. Unless you are laying all of the defence's faults last year on Creehan, which IMO would be way off base. Position coaches can do only so much. And BTW there have been coaches in this league who became successful after being terrible in the early part of their career. Creehan was not the sole cause of his defence's failures when he was a coordinator elsewhere, and there is no reason to believe he is doomed to fail this year.

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