Harris vs. Collaros

**paulwoods13** · 06-30-2015, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Rich

I wouldn't set the bar so high for Harris. If he protects the ball well and delivers a majority of wins, that would be good enough for me.

Enough to make it open and shut? Not for me. To make a good case, sure. But open and shut is way beyond a good case.

**AngeloV** · 06-30-2015, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Rich

You have to remember Angelo's judgement is clouded by his raging Ricky Ray man-crush.

LOL...you're funny. So I'll ask you the same question I asked argotom. He never responded, but were you on board with ditching Matt Dunnigan in '92 to go with Ricky Foggie after his small sample size of success?

**Fumblitis** · 06-30-2015, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

LOL...you're funny. So I'll ask you the same question I asked argotom. He never responded, but were you on board with ditching Matt Dunnigan in '92 to go with Ricky Foggie after his small sample size of success?

...and we know there's no man crush for argotom there.

**argotom** · 06-30-2015, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

LOL...you're funny. So I'll ask you the same question I asked argotom. He never responded, but were you on board with ditching Matt Dunnigan in '92 to go with Ricky Foggie after his small sample size of success?

That was a good one by Rich, but wait my buddy Angelo will never admit his man crush on RR?
That's why he goes to all of the alleged practices.
As for your question, wow 23 years ago to try to prove a point.
I have to do more research to do likewise, but I bet I won't need to go back so far and will find more examples?

**argolio** · 07-01-2015, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by argotom

That's why he goes to all of the alleged practices.

Alleged practices? Reading that literally, you just accused the Argos of faking or never holding practices.

**AngeloV** · 07-01-2015, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by argotom

That was a good one by Rich, but wait my buddy Angelo will never admit his man crush on RR?
That's why he goes to all of the alleged practices.
As for your question, wow 23 years ago to try to prove a point.
I have to do more research to do likewise, but I bet I won't need to go back so far and will find more examples?

Oh so now the man that complains of bullying on this forum is also showing to be a little homophobic? And even worse, you are piggy backing on someone else's comment. Just as I suspected...your real life level of intelligence matches your thoughtful post level, once again showing your hypocrisy.

Tell us again the one where you don't watch the NFL but know about what is happening because you are forced to watch during Sportscenter. That is my favourite one of all.

And to stay on topic....there is no way the Argos dump Ray if he comes back healthy and lights it up. If he struggles, then things will be different.

**Argo** · 07-01-2015, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

And to stay on topic....there is no way the Argos dump Ray if he comes back healthy and lights it up. If he struggles, then things will be different.

Yes, an underlying truth these days is that CFL teams really need two starting-quality quarterbacks, otherwise tailspin is that one injury away. Recent history could hardly be more emphatic. But two "starters" isn't easy to accommodate for any amount of time.

**argotom** · 07-01-2015, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

Oh so now the man that complains of bullying on this forum is also showing to be a little homophobic? And even worse, you are piggy backing on someone else's comment. Just as I suspected...your real life level of intelligence matches your thoughtful post level, once again showing your hypocrisy.

Tell us again the one where you don't watch the NFL but know about what is happening because you are forced to watch during Sportscenter. That is my favourite one of all.

And to stay on topic....there is no way the Argos dump Ray if he comes back healthy and lights it up. If he struggles, then things will be different.

You are too much!
It's true I don't watch the No Funners, but how about that Arena League?

**jerrym** · 07-01-2015, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by Rich

Sure, the jury's still out on Harris. He may still lay an egg or two in the next few games. BUT, if he maintains a level of play anywhere near his first game, then surely it's an open and shut case.

Yes, he lay an egg or two, but he's a winner. He' no Wally Gabler, who was a deer trapped in headlights whenever the pressure came near.

**AngeloV** · 07-01-2015, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by jerrym

Yes, he lay an egg or two, but he's a winner. He' no Wally Gabler, who was a deer trapped in headlights whenever the pressure came near.

Are you talking Gabler senior or junior? Junior was pretty good at Guelph.

**jerrym** · 07-01-2015, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

Are you talking Gabler senior or junior? Junior was pretty good at Guelph.

Senior. He often froze under pressure.

**Rich** · 07-02-2015, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

LOL...you're funny. So I'll ask you the same question I asked argotom. He never responded, but were you on board with ditching Matt Dunnigan in '92 to go with Ricky Foggie after his small sample size of success?

I didn't follow the Argos very closely in those days, but I don't think Foggie ever had a game quite as good as Harris' last week. Foggie wasn't as good at finding receivers because I seem to remember him running all the time. So it's not an accurate comparison.

You say if Ray lights it up when he returns, he stays, and if he struggles, we dump him. But what if it's somewhere in between, what then?

I agree with you, it would be ideal if we could keep both Ray and Harris next year, but you know as well as I do that's unlikely. You seriously think they would allow Harris to sign somewhere else like Collaros did? And go into the first season of the New Era At BMO with a battle-worn 36-year-old QB backed up by Mitchell Gale?

**paulwoods13** · 07-02-2015, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by Rich

I didn't follow the Argos very closely in those days, but I don't think Foggie ever had a game quite as good as Harris' last week. Foggie wasn't as good at finding receivers because I seem to remember him running all the time. So it's not an accurate comparison?

Depends on how you define quite as good, I guess. Foggie had a game with seven (!) TD passes AND 100 yards rushing. Even Flutie never managed that.

**Argo** · 07-02-2015, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by paulwoods13

Depends on how you define quite as good, I guess. Foggie had a game with seven (!) TD passes AND 100 yards rushing. Even Flutie never managed that.

Foggie was the Dirac delta function of CFL quarterbacks.

**AngeloV** · 07-02-2015, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Rich

I didn't follow the Argos very closely in those days, but I don't think Foggie ever had a game quite as good as Harris' last week. Foggie wasn't as good at finding receivers because I seem to remember him running all the time. So it's not an accurate comparison.

You say if Ray lights it up when he returns, he stays, and if he struggles, we dump him. But what if it's somewhere in between, what then?

I agree with you, it would be ideal if we could keep both Ray and Harris next year, but you know as well as I do that's unlikely. You seriously think they would allow Harris to sign somewhere else like Collaros did? And go into the first season of the New Era At BMO with a battle-worn 36-year-old QB backed up by Mitchell Gale?

Well, I don't think Harris is going anywhere. I feel the Argos will have both he and Ray on the roster. May have to take 100k off Ray's salary and add it to Harris', but I believe they will both be around.

**doubleblue** · 07-02-2015, 03:52 PM

Harris extended in July 2014. So next year would be his option year unless he extended for two years.

**argotom** · 07-02-2015, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by doubleblue

Harris extended in July 2014. So next year would be his option year unless he extended for two years.

I guess what get's lost is the shuffle as I didn't realize how Harris is 29 years old, not exactly a real young guy per say.

**Fumblitis** · 07-02-2015, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by argotom

I guess what get's lost is the shuffle as I didn't realize how Harris is 29 years old, not exactly a real young guy per say.

For a QB, he's just entering his prime so I wouldn't write him off as old either

Originally Posted by AngeloV

Well, I don't think Harris is going anywhere. I feel the Argos will have both he and Ray on the roster. May have to take 100k off Ray's salary and add it to Harris', but I believe they will both be around.

With the way QB's are dropping these days, you need two starter calibre QB's.

**ArgoRavi** · 07-02-2015, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by doubleblue

Harris extended in July 2014. So next year would be his option year unless he extended for two years.

Didn't they remove the option year from contracts with the new CBA though? His contract might expire after this season then unless he extended for longer.