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  1. 07-10-2015, 10:11 PM #1
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    Pinball representing Toronto at the Pan Am games

    Love the Argos, love the Pinball. Awesome that Michael Clemons was chosen to represent Toronto at the Pan Am ceremonies.

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  2. 07-10-2015, 11:46 PM #2
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    Was he representing the Argonauts or at this point just Pinball being Pinball? The guy could run for mayor and win. He should have been the last torch carrier not Steve Nash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1argoholic View Post
    Was he representing the Argonauts or at this point just Pinball being Pinball? The guy could run for mayor and win. He should have been the last torch carrier not Steve Nash.
    Nash was a curious choice to say the least but it probably came down to having someone whom the national TV audience in the U.S. would recognize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    Nash was a curious choice to say the least but it probably came down to having someone whom the national TV audience in the U.S. would recognize.
    From what I have been told, which is mostly heresay, folks in the US aren't even aware of the Pan Am games. Unfortunately, I think the US TV audience will join the people of the Golden Horseshoe in ignoring the games. However you are right, Steve Nash would probably be recognized by many US television viewers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    Nash was a curious choice to say the least but it probably came down to having someone whom the national TV audience in the U.S. would recognize.
    It was quite a scene. Hope you all have a chance to watch. The 1996 4x100 mens relay team brought the torch into the stadium - Bruny Surin handing off to Donovan Bailey RUNNING ON THE FREAKING CN TOWER SKYWALK - and there was quite a parade of athletes bringing in the Olympic and Pan Am flags

    Bobby Orr - our greatest hockey player
    Fergie Jenkins - our greatest baseball player
    Steve Nash - our greatest basketball player
    Mike Clemons - our, well how about, most popular football player

    And Chris Hadfield! Chantel Petticlerc! Catriona LeMay Doan! Simon Whitfield! Marnie McBean! Rick Hansen!
    Andrew Wiggins's mother, Marita Payne, two time Olympic silver medallist, handed the torch off to her son.


    Pretty impressive group. I've been grumbling a lot about the Pan Ams but the opening ceremony was REALLY well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Gap-Willie View Post
    From what I have been told, which is mostly heresay, folks in the US aren't even aware of the Pan Am games. Unfortunately, I think the US TV audience will join the people of the Golden Horseshoe in ignoring the games. However you are right, Steve Nash would probably be recognized by many US television viewers.
    You could be right, but the ceremonies were held on one of the ESPN networks, which is where I watched it, so it wasn't completely ignored by the Americans. And just like anything else that Americans don't watch, but you want them to watch, you do something that they will recognize to get them to think its "big time". Steve Nash sort of fills that, and also fills the need for "local" talent.
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  8. 07-16-2015, 01:51 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by argos1873 View Post
    You could be right, but the ceremonies were held on one of the ESPN networks, which is where I watched it, so it wasn't completely ignored by the Americans. And just like anything else that Americans don't watch, but you want them to watch, you do something that they will recognize to get them to think its "big time". Steve Nash sort of fills that, and also fills the need for "local" talent.
    There has been some controversy today as the organizers are bringing in Kanye West as the headline performer for the closing ceremonies. There is that sense out there - which I happen to agree with - that they are doing this to further pander to our southern neighbours.
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  9. 07-16-2015, 10:06 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    There has been some controversy today as the organizers are bringing in Kanye West as the headline performer for the closing ceremonies. There is that sense out there - which I happen to agree with - that they are doing this to further pander to our southern neighbours.
    People also complained about Gordon Lightfoot, Justin Bieber and Carly Rae Jepsen as the 2012 Grey Cup halftime show. You can't win. Whoever you pick, a large group of people will say "What? That music is crap, why didn't you pick MY favourite artist?"

    (for the record, Gordon Lightfoot *is* my favourite artist :-)
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  10. 07-16-2015, 10:41 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by shayman View Post
    People also complained about Gordon Lightfoot, Justin Bieber and Carly Rae Jepsen as the 2012 Grey Cup halftime show. You can't win. Whoever you pick, a large group of people will say "What? That music is crap, why didn't you pick MY favourite artist?"

    (for the record, Gordon Lightfoot *is* my favourite artist :-)
    There's no question any musical choice provokes howls of indignation because music is deeply personal. But at least those three were all Canadians. When has a major international sporting competition (Olys, Pan Ams, Commonwealth) showcased artists who were not from the host country? Maybe it happens regularly but I don't think so.
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    The closing ceremonies of the 2011 Pan Am games (in Mexico) had a lot of non-Mexican musical content, including a Puerto Rican headliner.
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    Pinball is the man.
    I agree what is the crazy reasoning for getting this West guy?
    No class or talent and we have many Canadians who should have been chosen as the main act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by argotom View Post
    Pinball is the man.
    I agree what is the crazy reasoning for getting this West guy?
    No class or talent and we have many Canadians who should have been chosen as the main act.
    I'm with you Tom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    I'm with you Tom.
    j-roc would be my choice in showcasing Canadian talent!
    Should have tried for Nicky Minaj. If that isn't spreading good will, I don't know what is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    When has a major international sporting competition (Olys, Pan Ams, Commonwealth) showcased artists who were not from the host country? Maybe it happens regularly but I don't think so.
    It happens. Celine Dion performed "The Power of the Dream" at the Atlanta Olympic opening ceremony. (A song written by David Foster, also Canadian.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    I'm with you Tom.
    j-roc would be my choice in showcasing Canadian talent!
    I would have chosen j-roc over Kanye west anyday. If you know what i am saying! You got to keep it real!
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    its the "Pan-American" games...

    so imo anyone from a participating country, as an act is fine with me
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