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    Different names brought in to see more of the same results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1argoholic View Post
    Different names brought in to see more of the same results.
    I believe that Reyes is a top notch player but the records for each of the starting pitchers that the Jays are getting didn't exactly blow me away. Miami finished with a worse record than the Jays last year so the players that each team is trading did not exactly lead their respective teams to glory. Apparently though, the Jays, at least according to the Toronto media, have fleeced the Marlins and Miami has decided to go with a bare bones roster financially for some reason.
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    This move says to me that the Jays "Bills in Toronto" experiment is completely dead. there is no way Rogers will spend more money on that fiasco now that they have committed to a massive new salary expenditure for the Jays. expect some quiet announcement in February...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Downtownfan View Post
    This move says to me that the Jays "Bills in Toronto" experiment is completely dead. there is no way Rogers will spend more money on that fiasco now that they have committed to a massive new salary expenditure for the Jays. expect some quiet announcement in February...
    Interesting take, and highly plausible considering we've heard nothing about renewing those games in months.

    Putting on my conspiracy hat (which I always do when it involves the Jays), this can only be a plot to take attention away from the Argos and the Grey Cup.

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    More Jays news, Toronto blue jays reportedly sign Melky Cabrera,

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/...two-year-deal/

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    All of a sudden the Jays are going nuts with deals and signings right before Grey Cup 100. Jays will still be the Jays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1argoholic View Post
    All of a sudden the Jays are going nuts with deals and signings right before Grey Cup 100. Jays will still be the Jays.
    Yes. I am so sure the Jays waited until Grey Cup to make these deals with Miami. I'm sure it had nothing to do with the many other teams trying to make deals at this time for those same players.

    The Jays will still be the Jays. The last time they made a deal like this they won two Championships. Not saying they will now ... but at least one should know what "Jays being the Jays" actually means in the context of what's actually happening in the world.

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    I find interesting how Jays fans always bashing the Yanks for buying not building are all of a sudden changing their tune. Hope the Jays and Yanks crash and burn in 2013, Go Rays.
    As far as the bills in TO. I heard today that they have anounced mr. Gangnam Style to play the halftime of the Bills/Seahawks tilt. I guess they want to outdo the Grey Cups crappy pop music with some crappy pop music of their own. I expect i small spike in Koreans who will leave by the end of the 3rd quarter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    I believe that Reyes is a top notch player but the records for each of the starting pitchers that the Jays are getting didn't exactly blow me away. Miami finished with a worse record than the Jays last year so the players that each team is trading did not exactly lead their respective teams to glory. Apparently though, the Jays, at least according to the Toronto media, have fleeced the Marlins and Miami has decided to go with a bare bones roster financially for some reason.
    You don't follow baseball therefore the pitchers do not blow you away. (If you did follow you would not have said that) Also the comment on the players not leading to glory is silly. Alomar and Carter did not lead anyone to glory before the Jays got them. You have many times regarding the Argos stated that the "new arrival" would be good here even though they were nothing to write home about on their previous club.

    As to Miami. The "for some reason" is well known as that owner will reboot when he sees the team he has going nowhere. They won a Championship in 97 and then he blew it up. Well they rebuilt and won another championship a few years later. He kept that team together for a couple of year but blew them up when he saw them slide a bit. This version of the rebuild didn't pan out as expected ... so he's blowing it up again. Pretty smart since his plan worked twice now.

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    Proof will be on the field next year. Mark my words that the Jays will perhaps do more than this year but I don't expect a bunch of guys from a horrible Marlin team to help. I once cared bigtime about the Jays but now I really couldn't give a crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1argoholic View Post
    All of a sudden the Jays are going nuts with deals and signings right before Grey Cup 100. Jays will still be the Jays.
    And then they go prove how not serious they are about really contending by bringing back their worst manager in history...John Gibbons. Strangely enough, the last time the team spent any money was the last time he was here, and that did not go to well....Obviously Anthopolous is not a believer in that saying, "Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results." The Gibbons hiring had all board room written all over it...spend some money because they have to do damage control to save their season ticket base, but don't spend money on a manager that will demand even more of a commitment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gill The Thrill View Post
    And then they go prove how not serious they are about really contending by bringing back their worst manager in history...John Gibbons. Strangely enough, the last time the team spent any money was the last time he was here, and that did not go to well....Obviously Anthopolous is not a believer in that saying, "Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results." The Gibbons hiring had all board room written all over it...spend some money because they have to do damage control to save their season ticket base, but don't spend money on a manager that will demand even more of a commitment.
    I don't follow the Jays as closely as I used to but that certainly was a perplexing move to bring back Gibbons.
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    I think despite his 88-74 record, Tim Johnson would rank near the bottom for Jays managers. Lied about Vietnam experiences to teach and motivate the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanTheFan View Post
    I think despite his 88-74 record, Tim Johnson would rank near the bottom for Jays managers. Lied about Vietnam experiences to teach and motivate the team.
    What does lying about Vietnam have to do with his ability as a baseball manager?? The guy seemed to be a tortured soul because he knew people that went and died and felt that he should of gone...that's a pure case of survivor's guilt.

    Gibbons on the other hand can't make the right decisions, cannot manage to manufacture runs or what the media sometimes refer to as "small ball" which makes it sound negative but is smart managing. It's why the National has started to dominate in the World Series despite the American League divisions looking stronger in the regular season.

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    if they can stay healthy, they will be a hard team to beat...

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    As it stands it looks like Francona will make believers of the Tribe. He has an uncanny resemblance to Milanovich.
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