Rams officially moving to Los Angeles

[R.J]

Chargers have the option to join Inglewood project. Mark Davis pulled the Raiders out of the process and look to be staying in Oakland at least for the time being, NFL said to assist them in new stadium options.

[Wobbler]

So it finally happened. Somehow I don't think "Give us a sweet tax deal and build an arena or I'm moving the team to St. Louis" is going to be as effective for owners as the old threat was.

[R.J]

So it finally happened. Somehow I don't think "Give us a sweet tax deal and build an arena or I'm moving the team to St. Louis" is going to be as effective for owners as the old threat was.

I guess at least one of Toronto, London, San Antonio and Mexico City will become the new Los Angeles.

[ArgoRavi]

I guess at least one of Toronto, London, San Antonio and Mexico City will become the new Los Angeles.

I can't see it being Toronto as the costs are prohibitive, especially with the low dollar, and there is little appetite for using public funds to build an enormous stadium for a foreign league.

[Tau Ceti]

CFL in St. Louis. Let's get on this.

[Mightygoose]

Depending on when/if the Chargers take the option to join Stan. LA II becomes the new LA. Apparently, the Chargers have until the March meetings (20-23) to decide then it's year to year.

[R.J]

I can't see it being Toronto as the costs are prohibitive, especially with the low dollar, and there is little appetite for using public funds to build an enormous stadium for a foreign league.

Not what I meant, if you read the post I quoted, the context for what I wrote is there. NFL team's will use one of Toronto, London, Mexico City and San Antonio (most likely just San Antonio and Toronto), the same way they used Los Angeles, as a threat in order to secure more taxpayer money from their Cities, Counties and States for new play pens.

[gilthethrill]

CFL in St. Louis. Let's get on this.

I suggest the team be named either the Cardinals or the Rams.

[AngeloV]

If this were to happen in the CFL, people would call the league bush.

[R.J]

If this were to happen in the CFL, people would call the league bush.

The CFL is on some ridiculous pedestal for some reason, if they do something good it's 'well it's just the CFL" and when they do something that people don't like "that's bush league". The League can never win. It's ridiculous to hear some of the excuses as to why people don't go to games and yet those excuses aren't there when it comes to the Jays winning, Raptors, Winnipeg Jets, etc. I've never understood it.

[1argoholic]

Give it a few years and the LA based team will move again.

[R.J]

Give it a few years and the LA based team will move again.

i doubt it, Kroenke is spending a butt load of money on that stadium district.

[paulwoods13]

Not what I meant, if you read the post I quoted, the context for what I wrote is there. NFL team's will use one of Toronto, London, Mexico City and San Antonio (most likely just San Antonio and Toronto), the same way they used Los Angeles, as a threat in order to secure more taxpayer money from their Cities, Counties and States for new play pens.

I think if an owner (like Jacksonville's) were to hint that he'd move the team to Toronto, it wouldn't take too much digging (i.e. none) for an enterprising reporter there to discover that SkyDome is hopeless as an NFL venue and a 70-cent dollar and national market only as large as California make this an economic non-starter.

[argolio]

Interesting that St. Louis met every single condition set by the NFL and Goddell, and still got hosed. Just shows that the NFL and Kroenke have been orchestrating this deal for years. St. Louis never had a chance.

[QBall]

And the St. Louis fans are suing. Only in 'murica!

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/c...ec4f3aa35.html

Irate fans sue Rams for leaving town

[R.J]

Chargers have filed to trademark the names Los Angeles Chargers and LA Chargers.

["Issues"Mcgee]

The CFL is on some ridiculous pedestal for some reason, if they do something good it's 'well it's just the CFL" and when they do something that people don't like "that's bush league". The League can never win. It's ridiculous to hear some of the excuses as to why people don't go to games and yet those excuses aren't there when it comes to the Jays winning, Raptors, Winnipeg Jets, etc. I've never understood it.

I can completely relate to this. It's mind-boggling what people will give flack to the CFL for. I had an NFL fan from Toronto tell me he hates the CFL because some games are played in the snow and the Eskimos is a racist name for a team...

I don't get this push to move to LA. Didn't an NFL team in LA prove to be a failure in the past? How will LAers find the time between watching basketball, getting stoned and talking about how amazing California is to support two, let alone one, NFL team?

[Will]

I can completely relate to this. It's mind-boggling what people will give flack to the CFL for. I had an NFL fan from Toronto tell me he hates the CFL because some games are played in the snow and the Eskimos is a racist name for a team...

I've heard some ridiculous reasons why people dislike the CFL, but the above reasons might take the cake. Did you explain to him the weather in Green Bay or Buffalo in December and January or the fact that the Washington Redskins have been under pressure for years because of their name?

I don't think the Rams moved from Los Angeles in the 90's because they were unpopular, rather they moved for very much the same reasons that they are moving back to Los Angeles and that is stadium politics.

[AngeloV]

I don't think the Rams moved from Los Angeles in the 90's because they were unpopular, rather they moved for very much the same reasons that they are moving back to Los Angeles and that is stadium politics.

And to me that is sickening.

Can't stand seeing these owners making money hand over fist, holding cities hostage for a new stadium so that they can even make more money. In the NHL, I can understand it, because if the team is having issues selling out, it's easy to lose a lot of money. But in the NFL, teams make money before they even sell 1 ticket. If I was a mayor being pressured by a greedy owner, I would just let him take his team and leave.

[Will]

And to me that is sickening.

Can't stand seeing these owners making money hand over fist, holding cities hostage for a new stadium so that they can even make more money. In the NHL, I can understand it, because if the team is having issues selling out, it's easy to lose a lot of money. But in the NFL, teams make money before they even sell 1 ticket. If I was a mayor being pressured by a greedy owner, I would just let him take his team and leave.

It is quite ironic.

I am unsure I have much sympathy for certain NHL teams. For example, the Ottawa Senators who built their arena in the middle of nowhere in the mid-1990's. Now we here that they might want to move into Lebreton Flats (where an arena was originally proposed). I'd have less sympathy for a team playing in a 20-year arena versus one who is playing in an older one.