If Collaros hits free agency in 2017.....................

[R.J]

.@JDunk12 tells @sportsnet960 if @ZCollaros7 makes it to free agency in 2017, #Argos would make a very hard run at him. #CFL

— CFL News (@CFL_News) February 27, 2016

[Argo57]

I don't see Hamilton letting Collaros get to free agency in 2017.

[OV Argo]

Players will often show loyalty to the team that gave them a chance to be a starter / or become a star; but then again - money talk$ ... though not like CFL teams can offer a big star millions more to sign a huge contract. Is Collaros going to leave the Hammer to come back to the Argos - who he left in the first place - because they might offer 20 or 30 K more than the Ticats would pay ?

[ArgoGabe22]

ZC tweeted he loves Hamilton this past week or something similar. So if he signs with Toronto, he can still hang out on King Street.

IMO the only way Zach walks if he and his agent think he's worth so much more (highest paid QB) than Hamilton can afford and he tests the market. Hamilton shouldn't have much cap space left with the signing of Laurent. They will need to make room for his salary after this season so it'll be interesting to see what moves they make. I'm skeptical they'll re-sign ZC during the season as he may want another shot at the NFL.

[KCargosfan]

ZC tweeted he loves Hamilton this past week or something similar. So if he signs with Toronto, he can still hang out on King Street.

IMO the only way Zach walks if he and his agent think he's worth so much more (highest paid QB) than Hamilton can afford and he tests the market. Hamilton shouldn't have much cap space left with the signing of Laurent. They will need to make room for his salary after this season so it'll be interesting to see what moves they make. I'm skeptical they'll re-sign ZC during the season as he may want another shot at the NFL.

We talked about this previously in another thread, but I don't see the NFL being an option for Collaros. By that time, he would be 29 prior to the NFL season of 2017.

[Rich]

Players will often show loyalty to the team that gave them a chance to be a starter / or become a star; but then again - money talk$ ... though not like CFL teams can offer a big star millions more to sign a huge contract. Is Collaros going to leave the Hammer to come back to the Argos - who he left in the first place - because they might offer 20 or 30 K more than the Ticats would pay ?

Sometimes it's about more than money. For example let's say Collaros wants a future in sports broadcasting. You can be sure that working for a Bell Media-owned team would provide him with huge opportunities for career development that he wouldn't have in Hamilton.

But will we really need him? I got a feeling that either Fajardo or Kilgore is gonna break out this year, in which case Collaros can go blow.

[Double Dare]

First Collaros has to heal. You never know where his career will end up after injuries ... maybe the sideline.

[paulwoods13]

This won't be popular with some forum members, but has anyone considered the possibility Ricky Ray might continue to play at a high level for three or four more years, a la Calvillo? I personally think that is possible if not probable.

[Will]

This won't be popular with some forum members, but has anyone considered the possibility Ricky Ray might continue to play at a high level for three or four more years, a la Calvillo? I personally think that is possible if not probable.

It's possible--people had written Calvillo off in 2007, and then Trestman arrived and Calvillo played at a high level from 2008 to 2012.

[doubleblue]

This won't be popular with some forum members, but has anyone considered the possibility Ricky Ray might continue to play at a high level for three or four more years, a la Calvillo? I personally think that is possible if not probable.

Could well be, if they give him protection. But if they keep running that five Olinemen and a pony back protection offense he is going to be spending a lot of time on the IR. IMO

[Will]

Could well be, if they give him protection. But if they keep running that five Olinemen and a pony back protection offense he is going to be spending a lot of time on the IR. IMO

Well adding Josh Bourke will help at LT, however I'm still concerned about that right side of the line. Van Zeyl struggled much of last year and I don't know if that was due to age or injuries.

[Argo57]

This won't be popular with some forum members, but has anyone considered the possibility Ricky Ray might continue to play at a high level for three or four more years, a la Calvillo? I personally think that is possible if not probable.

Anything is possible Paul but banking on that happening at this point would be foolish IMO.
O-Line must be greatly improved to have any chance of your scenario playing out.

[R.J]

One thing to keep in mind about the current football operational regime in Hamilton is Tillman and Austin are not known for keeping highly priced QB's, although I highly doubt we see another Ricky Ray or Kerry Joseph type of deal. At this point I really don't see Collaros going anywhere, but I think a lot will depend on if he can stay healthy this season.

[ArgoGabe22]

This won't be popular with some forum members, but has anyone considered the possibility Ricky Ray might continue to play at a high level for three or four more years, a la Calvillo? I personally think that is possible if not probable.

Thing with Ray is, is that he's pretty hard to read. I don't know what Ray is thinking, seems like he didn't consider retirement yet but you never know what's going on in his head. Calvillo seemed to be more outspoken for his desire to play as long as he had, as did Allen and Burris. I just don't know if Ray sees himself playing 3-4 more years. Ricky Ray is a mystery.

[paulwoods13]

O-Line must be greatly improved to have any chance of your scenario playing out.

Very likely true.

[Mookie Fan]

Anything is possible Paul but banking on that happening at this point would be foolish IMO.
O-Line must be greatly improved to have any chance of your scenario playing out.

Agreed. I also think an improved ground game would help take a lot of the pressure off Ricky Ray, and help him stay healthy. I don't think Milanovich really appreciates this, based on his play calling over the past few years. Obviously the running game is directly related to our O-Line play as well.

[ArgoRavi]

Calvillo played into his 40s under the same offence that Ray is operating under.

[Mookie Fan]

Calvillo played into his 40s under the same offence that Ray is operating under.

That's true. That said, Calvillo also had a great offensive line for his entire career, a good (& at times great) running game during his career and had a very quick release. He also seemed to have few serious injuries. Ricky Ray has already had several serious injuries and he doesn't have Calvillo's arm. Calvillo basically threw darts down the field, even though his deep ball wasn't the best. Ricky Ray did have a quick release and threw an accurate deep ball until 2014, but now his release is pretty average, and he can't throw deep anymore. We'll see if he can get those two aspects of his game back. He hangs on to the ball longer now, and that contributes to the fact that he takes more hits than he used to. Obviously the O-line play during pass protection and a lack of a running game also contribute to this.

Personally I think Anthony Calvillo is the exception, not the rule. Even if Ray could play as long as Calvillo, he may not be playing at a level that enables the Argos to win very many games. Winning and playing at a reasonably high level is ultimately what it's all about, not just whether Ray can stay healthy.

[Double Dare]

Personally I think Anthony Calvillo is the exception, not the rule.

Absolutely true! It will be decades before another QB does what he did, if ever.

[1argoholic]

Cody Fajardo will be our next CFL star qb. The next Doug Flutie. Zack is dead to me.