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    This team is an embarrassment and the abuse of public funds to prop this pathetic welfare case to appease rich billionaire owners, developers, and politicians is exactly evidence of everything wrong with modern day politics which loathes its constituents, viewing them more as people in the way, instead of citizens that need to be served by them...then people wonder why Trump beat Hilary.

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    Interesting article brought to my attention.

    Arizona Board of Regents claims approval power over Arizona Coyotes arena on ASU land in Tempe

    http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2016/12/13/arizona-board-of-regents-claims-approval-power.html


    "Officials at the Arizona Board of Regents — which oversees Arizona State University and the state’s two other public universities — say they have oversight and approval power over a proposed new Arizona Coyotes hockey arena at the Karsten Golf Course of Rio Salado Parkway in Tempe.

    “One of the conditions of that authorization is that any material changes to the master development plan will require ABOR approval,” she said.

    That includes projects or uses not originally outlined in the development district plans.

    “A proposed arena for the Arizona Coyotes was not part of the original master plan and so would require approval by the Arizona Board of Regents,” Harper said.
    The Board of Regents is pretty much where the buck stops. If the team does not get approval here, then it pretty much doesn't matter what the state legislature does.

    Makes even more sense why, ASU was not at Coyotes press conference last month. Plus the city of Tempe and the Governor didn't know anything prior and they're supposed to be partners. LeBlanc even says this is 100% in the hands of public officials now.

    State legislature starts on January 9. Nothing pre-filed by the team to date.

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    How long until they make their intentions to move to Seattle public?
    It's us vs the rest of the country

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    At this rate the speculation about when and where Arizona moves may outlive us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    How long until they make their intentions to move to Seattle public?
    I would actually like that move....Seattle has a rich hockey history pre-dating the National Hockey League. I believe the Seattle Metropolitans won the first Stanley Cup that was run by the NHL or NHA (not sure). They were part of what was the West Coast or Pacific Coast League and beat the Eastern NHL champion in 1918. Sadly the 1919 Stanley Cup was discontinued when Montreal player Joe Hall died, en route to Seattle to play for the cup, after catching the Spanish flu, an epidemic that had gripped North America during that spring, prior to the discovery of penicillin of course.

    Seattle was rumoured to get a team prior to Bettman becoming commish in the late 80s and 90s, but never built a large enough arena to replace Key Arena, the basketball arena that was deemed to small for the NBA Supersonics, who eventually moved to Oklahoma city years later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gill The Thrill View Post
    I would actually like that move....Seattle has a rich hockey history pre-dating the National Hockey League. I believe the Seattle Metropolitans won the first Stanley Cup that was run by the NHL or NHA (not sure). They were part of what was the West Coast or Pacific Coast League and beat the Eastern NHL champion in 1918. Sadly the 1919 Stanley Cup was discontinued when Montreal player Joe Hall died, en route to Seattle to play for the cup, after catching the Spanish flu, an epidemic that had gripped North America during that spring, prior to the discovery of penicillin of course.

    Seattle was rumoured to get a team prior to Bettman becoming commish in the late 80s and 90s, but never built a large enough arena to replace Key Arena, the basketball arena that was deemed to small for the NBA Supersonics, who eventually moved to Oklahoma city years later.
    Seattle played in the Pacific Coast Hockey Association (the same league where Vancouver Millionaires won the city's only Stanley Cup in 1915 ). In addition to its 1917 victory and the 1919 Stanley Cup tragedy, Seattle made it to the Stanley Cup finals in 1920 but lost to the original Ottawa Senators. In other words, a Seattle team would be able to claim it has won the Stanley Cup more recently than Vancouver.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Metropolitans

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    Since the Seattle Thunderbirds of the Western Hockey League have a large fan base, IMO a Seattle NHL team should draw well.

    The Thunderbirds have a large fan base, and continually draw some of the highest attendance numbers in the WHL on a yearly basis at the ShoWare Center.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Thunderbirds

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    ASU pulls out of Coyotes arena plan.

    http://www.abc15.com/sports/sports-b...rizona-coyotes

    Team is on the final year of their lease and have no intention of staying in Glendale...can't afford to without a juicy subsidy.

    Time to pack the bags

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    Not surprised, as ASU had nothing to gain from it. I still think a downtown shared facility is the way to go, that or just relocate the team.

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    Bettman: Coyotes cannot and will not remain in Glendale

    http://www.tsn.ca/bettman-coyotes-ca...ndale-1.690339

    The arena bill SB1149 has been stalled in the senate for weeks with insufficient support.

    Do the politicians cave or if the exit out of the desert forthcoming?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mightygoose View Post
    Bettman: Coyotes cannot and will not remain in Glendale

    http://www.tsn.ca/bettman-coyotes-ca...ndale-1.690339

    The arena bill SB1149 has been stalled in the senate for weeks with insufficient support.

    Do the politicians cave or if the exit out of the desert forthcoming?
    I guess the league would want to keep them out west if they move. Seattle anyone?
    It's us vs the rest of the country

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    Coyotes Arena Funding Bill nearly dead.

    http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...ture/99544348/

    Last day for the Senate to approve the bill was yesterday...technically it's today but the legislature is closed today. Bill sponsor Sen. Worsley could not muster the 16 votes needed.

    Still a chance this could pass either through the state budget, have the house re-introduce it, or insert the bill's language in a another bill - a strike all tactic. These don't seem too likely.

    The legislature is scheduled to be adjourned on April 22...could go later. Once it does and if it's still not passed, it will be dead.

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    Arizona legislature passes the budget without the arena funding bill. It hasn't been for consideration for about a month.

    http://www.heraldcourier.com/news/le...b851c593a.html

    With the budget done this officially kills any public funding for a new arena for the Coyotes.

    Only chance now is if the team puts more money on the table either through a new bill next year or try something through tribe. Either way, they need new investors and Barroway is in the process of finding people to buy out his partners with no luck for far.

    The team has a lease valid only through the 2017/18 season.

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    I think the Coyotes only real shot at an arena is if Sarver changes his mind and decides to play nice with the Coyotes and the city of Phoenix as well for that matter. City leaders in Phoenix want a shared arena, so maybe some deals can be made.

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    It appears majority owner Andrew Barroway is about to buy out the minority partners.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/news/report...174825165.html

    This was brought up shortly after the arena bill failed in the Senate a few months ago.

    It may not so much a buyout but more of a shotgun clause in the agreement as the other Ice Arizona owners don't have the funds to continue with the Glendale subsidy gone and no other suckers out there to pay the tab.

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    I think this is a move in the right direction, some if the decisions LaBlanc made were confusing to say the least. Barroway seems more hands off, but at the end of the day, I think it's joint arena or bust for the Coyotes now.

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    Buyout official

    http://arizonasports.com/story/11404...nority-owners/

    Bye Bye clowns!

    John Shannon mentioned they're trying to work with the Suns for a dual arena however Barroway has no partners and his buyout was financed so unless there's some big taxpayers $$$ involved with a new building, I don't see how this works.

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    Sounds like either bringing in Investors or selling the team could be the next move.

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    Haven't posted on this for a while.

    http://www.12news.com/news/politics/...ders/490421506

    City of Phoenix is negotiating behind closed doors on major renovations to Talking Stick Resort Arena downtown.

    The renovated arena would not accommodate the Coyotes which will officially close that door....though it was never really open.

    Only chance is somewhere in the East Valley. Pre filing for the Arizona legislature opens next week. Same timeframe the now doomed ASU plans was announced.

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    I'd like to see Barroway sell the team to either Feritta in Houston or the Group in Seattle. Both have a lot of money, one has an NHL suitable arena and the other is part of a group investing in the Key Arena reno.

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