Edmonton Elks Thread

[Mulder]

Slippery slope. When does this stop? Yes, I know this post will make me a villain.

Never. Those who fought this hard on social media will forget about this 'victory' in short time. The outrage mob moves quickly to the next act, the next pleasure, the next hit of dopamine. Discontinuing the use of the name is not enough, now the demand for apologies and further reconciliation. The outrage mob moves on.

You can debate on how sincere the Team was in engaging northern communities in this conversation, the polling and the promise of continued engagement but in the end, this wasn't decided by the Team on their own terms, nor was it decided by the Inuit as a community, that is clear.

The conversation, which should have always been focused on how the Inuit as a community feel, went right to stopping racist name at whatever the costs. A "Don't worry Inuit, we got this for you, sit back." Seemly, a perverse type of racism in it's self. It's as if the activists assumed the Inuit were too fragile/hurt to speak up for themselves. I am not discounting individual experiences and feelings by people, this was an social media observation oh who was mostly doing the "fighting", including the Board of Directors of the Corporation that made a public threat, instead of making their concerns in a more private manner. It's very easy for both people and corporations to score "Social Points" off the backs of another's annihilation.

The point here is that is wasn't clear Canadians decided that the "canucks" is a derogatory term, but more like southern US Americans (for which by some of the southern US population "canucks" IS used in a derogatory manner). To use this in an analogy everyone can understand.

As for the name change it's self, for people who call themselves CFL Fans, this should not be considered either a victory or a defeat, but a realization of the times. For some, this will bring sadness and a sense of loss as they have grown up with the name. Those CFL Fans who celebrate the change do so without understanding what other people have lost.

[Argo57]

Never. Those who fought this hard on social media will forget about this 'victory' in short time. The outrage mob moves quickly to the next act, the next pleasure, the next hit of dopamine. Discontinuing the use of the name is not enough, now the demand for apologies and further reconciliation. The outrage mob moves on.

You can debate on how sincere the Team was in engaging northern communities in this conversation, the polling and the promise of continued engagement but in the end, this wasn't decided by the Team on their own terms, nor was it decided by the Inuit as a community, that is clear.

The conversation, which should have always been focused on how the Inuit as a community feel, went right to stopping racist name at whatever the costs. A "Don't worry Inuit, we got this for you, sit back." Seemly, a perverse type of racism in it's self. It's as if the activists assumed the Inuit were too fragile/hurt to speak up for themselves. I am not discounting individual experiences and feelings by people, this was an social media observation oh who was mostly doing the "fighting", including the Board of Directors of the Corporation that made a public threat, instead of making their concerns in a more private manner. It's very easy for both people and corporations to score "Social Points" off the backs of another's annihilation.

The point here is that is wasn't clear Canadians decided that the "canucks" is a derogatory term, but more like southern US Americans (for which by some of the southern US population "canucks" IS used in a derogatory manner). To use this in an analogy everyone can understand.

As for the name change it's self, for people who call themselves CFL Fans, this should not be considered either a victory or a defeat, but a realization of the times. For some, this will bring sadness and a sense of loss as they have grown up with the name. Those CFL Fans who celebrate the change do so without understanding what other people have lost.

Couldn’t agree more, a very sensible and balanced viewpoint IMO👍