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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    This, with the further disclaimer that again much of this is just rumor and innuendo.
    Absolutely. That's why I said none of know and likely will never know the entire truth.
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    Change the name back. It's a symbolic first step as to righting the ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retrogorilla 2 View Post
    Change the name back. It's a symbolic first step as to righting the ship.
    You and I both know that this isn't going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    You and I both know that this isn't going to happen.
    There's a groundswell going on south of the border with The Redskins lead by the very people who are supposed to be "offended", so you never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retrogorilla 2 View Post
    There's a groundswell going on south of the border with The Redskins lead by the very people who are supposed to be "offended", so you never know.
    Drop this garbage. Attendance has nothing to do with the name change with the exception of maybe 500 or so (likely racist) morons that actually take offence. I'm only going to say this once, if even 1 person of native decent is offended, then the name change was the right move. Unless you yourself are native, please don't bring up the as you call it "WOKE" crap again. It reeks of ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Drop this garbage. Attendance has nothing to do with the name change with the exception of maybe 500 or so (likely racist) morons that actually take offence. I'm only going to say this once, if even 1 person of native decent is offended, then the name change was the right move. Unless you yourself are native, please don't bring up the as you call it "WOKE" crap again. It reeks of ignorance.
    I think it's possible to be unhappy about the name change without being a racist moron.

    I think comfort in familiarity is just human nature. You grow up with something, and then it changes. People naturally get bummed out when that happens.

    It also doesn't help when the new name isn't that great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Drop this garbage. Attendance has nothing to do with the name change with the exception of maybe 500 or so (likely racist) morons that actually take offence. I'm only going to say this once, if even 1 person of native decent is offended, then the name change was the right move. Unless you yourself are native, please don't bring up the as you call it "WOKE" crap again. It reeks of ignorance.
    I guess YOU get to decide what and who is racist, huh? Your attitude sucks.

    Why do you people always have to resort to the holier-than-thou, virtue signalling crap? There are PLENTY of Indigenous folks who spoke and out and either had a: no problem with it or b: supported it and viewed it as a tribute. THAT'S A FACT. If you get butthurt because your White Liberal guilt can't handle it, just STFU and keep it to yourself instead of making derogatory and generalizations about everyone like an ACTUAL bigot does.

    Dude you seem like an otherwise cool guy but arbitrarily labelling people 'racists' is no different or less worse than being one.

    Branding is HUGE. Having connections to the marketplace is HUGE. Severing lifelong relationships is HUGE. The name change had a much bigger effect than 500 people, I'd be willing to bet.
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    Let's drop this please.
    It's clear nothing is likely to be gained from further discussion other than the potential for personal attacks, which I do not believe anyone here wants to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    Let's drop this please.
    It's clear nothing is likely to be gained from further discussion other than the potential for personal attacks, which I do not believe anyone here wants to see.
    Certainly. Dropped. I didn't start in on it and only took umbrage to the insinuations.

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    Well, I am glad I didn't post. I had it all written out trying to use general terms and not be political before the usual suspect started with the pejorative authoritarian name calling rather than considering the point.

    But I tell you it is a sad place when I felt I had to self censor so to try and prevent what happened from happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bannedforlife View Post
    Well, I am glad I didn't post. I had it all written out trying to use general terms and not be political before the usual suspect started with the pejorative authoritarian name calling rather than considering the point.

    But I tell you it is a sad place when I felt I had to self censor so to try and prevent what happened from happening.
    Seriously, there are so many great posters on here that keep the conversation to football, the. There is you. Have you ever posted an opinion or thought about actual on field happenings? Either post something about actual football or get the F out.

    And for the record, I have never originated a political comment on here. I just react to them. A-hole
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retrogorilla 2 View Post
    Certainly. Dropped. I didn't start in on it and only took umbrage to the insinuations.

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    No thanks. Your prior anti trans Bud light reference and “woke” comments tell me all I need to know about you.
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