"Toronto hasn't won a championship in pro sports since 1993"

[OV Argo]

You "roll" that way behind the cloak of anonymity on a relatively small public forum. Not exactly the epitome of outspoken truth-telling.

Yeah - much better to be a gutless little sheep working in the media and scared to offend wannabe clowns by daring to have an opinion of your own so you roll with the lemmings. ;o)

[argolio]

Taylor and Hedger will, presumably, work together in the future. He's not going to start some big argument with her on the air, assuming he was even listening to her. Not to say she doesn't deserve criticism, but most of the time these hosts just read a teleprompter and nod their heads waiting for the next story or commercial. I'm not expecting them to have informed opinions.

[KCargosfan]

Right. It also looked like one of those lead out segments into commercial. Really hard to get a word in edgewise there. The co-host could say, "And the world is going to end tomorrow" and most of us would just nod along and say, "That's right, Bob." Then during the commercial break we'd think, "WTF did I just agree to?"

Great and very accurate post.

[argonaut11xx]

Yeah - much better to be a gutless little sheep working in the media and scared to offend wannabe clowns by daring to have an opinion of your own so you roll with the lemmings. ;o)

You are 100% correct OV

[paulwoods13]

Yeah - much better to be a gutless little sheep working in the media and scared to offend wannabe clowns by daring to have an opinion of your own so you roll with the lemmings. ;o)

Anyone can take a swing at me -- my identity is not secret. Can you say the same?

Lemmings and sheep are actually the people who anonymously criticize anything and everything while hiding behind an IP address.

[Ron]

It also goes both ways. You want a dude to speak up when the CFL gets a little slag ... yet you'd be outraged if someone said something nice about the CFL only to have their partner take a shot at them.

""There has been no Championships by a pro sports team in this city since the Argos won the GC in 2012."

"The Argos? The CFL is not a pro sport."

You'd be outraged and yelling that the reply should have been professional and kept their mouth shut.

[OV Argo]

Anyone can take a swing at me -- my identity is not secret. Can you say the same?

Lemmings and sheep are actually the people who anonymously criticize anything and everything while hiding behind an IP address.

OMG - you provide your name on an internet forum; and Hedger & Taylor provide their names when they are on TV = wow! - just incredible and so revealing - you guys should be beyond reproach. Tell you what - use your "journalism" skills & kin connections to set-up a public forum meeting between me, Jen and this Taylor guy to discuss the topic - I will provide my full name, with documentation, along with DOB and place of birth/hometown (i.e. - more than they provide as TV talking heads). The conversation can be recorded and on the public record.

And I'm afraid your understanding of the animal kingdom and similes used there is a bit lacking. Sheep, you see, are these domesticated herd animals afraid to do much but stick together in their pack, and they are often moved or bullied by barking dogs. Lemmings are these little rodents known to sometimes blindly follow the leader to bad places.

[OV Argo]

It also goes both ways. You want a dude to speak up when the CFL gets a little slag ... yet you'd be outraged if someone said something nice about the CFL only to have their partner take a shot at them.

""There has been no Championships by a pro sports team in this city since the Argos won the GC in 2012."

"The Argos? The CFL is not a pro sport."

You'd be outraged and yelling that the reply should have been professional and kept their mouth shut.

How TF do you know how I'd respond to such a scenario?

I think I would be saying that guy has some guts for a wannabe for saying something like that on air; however - it would also be totally obvious he was a clueless idiot since the CFL is obviously a pro sport. Or is it not ?

[argofan81]

According to CP24 this morning, Toronto hasn't won a major league sports championship since 1967 (when the Leafs last won the stanley cup).

The inference was made when discussing Cleveland's basketball win this morning; their drought of a championship prior to this year's NBA win has been since 1964 (when the Cleveland Browns won the SuperBowl). The comment was along the lines of 'They haven't won since '64 and we haven't won since '67.....our time will come." Apparently baseball championships don't count either in the city of Toronto!

[Johno27]

According to CP24 this morning, Toronto hasn't won a major league sports championship since 1967 (when the Leafs last won the stanley cup).

The inference was made when discussing Cleveland's basketball win this morning; their drought of a championship prior to this year's NBA win has been since 1964 (when the Cleveland Browns won the SuperBowl). The comment was along the lines of 'They haven't won since '64 and we haven't won since '67.....our time will come." Apparently baseball championships don't count either in the city of Toronto!

[With sarcasm] And all thirteen Leaf championships were achieved in a tiny (regional) six-team league and their players made peanuts and had to have jobs in the offseason....you call that major league? Hee! Hee!

[1argoholic]

Basically TOOLS that happen to luck out and get TV gigs.

[Neely2005]

[With sarcasm] And all thirteen Leaf championships were achieved in a tiny (regional) six-team league and their players made peanuts and had to have jobs in the offseason....you call that major league? Hee! Hee!

Lol nice. And don't forget that 4 of those 6 teams made the playoffs.

[Argoknot]

Basically TOOLS that happen to luck out and get TV gigs.

The biz ain't what it used to be.

[bluto]

Just wait until Friday's headlines. Even if we trounce the TiCats in style, all the stories will be about are Auston Matthews.

[1argoholic]

You nailed it Bluto.

[Argoknot]

Create your own media, read forums, write blogs, tweet. Correct mistakes or misrepresentations you see posted so that newcomers will get the correct story. Coverage these days isn't the same, it's content vs context, much of it isn't any better than what you can put together so if they choose not to cover an event who cares, do your own grassroots publicizing.

Many of these people aren't there to get a story out, they want to be personalities and get personal recognition, over reporting a good story. Ed Murrow was insulted when people called him a star, it ain't that way today. The situation ain't gonna change so change your situation. Reinvent the game.

[PullTogether73]

Lol nice. And don't forget that 4 of those 6 teams made the playoffs.

Plus, there were drafting restrictions that prevented the U.S. teams from drafting within Ontario and Quebec.
Plus, for a period of several years, one owner controlled all four of the U.S. teams and stacked only the Detroit Red Wings with the best talent by trading the best players from the other US. teams to Detroit (anyone heard of the NHL - Norris House League?).
Have you ever wondered why the Bruins, Blackhawks, and Rangers rarely won the Stanley Cup while the Canadiens, Maple Leafs, and Red Wings regularly won it?

The Maple Leafs glorious history is not nearly so glorious when you are aware of how the rules were stacked against half of the (tiny, six-team) league.

Edit: btw, if anyone ever slags the CFL for being a small league (currently 9 teams), ask them if they are a Maple Leafs fan. If they are, feel free to mock their ignorance. The Maple Leafs have NEVER won a Stanley Cup in a league with more than 8 teams.

[Argoknot]

The Maple Leafs have NEVER won a Stanley Cup in a league with more than 8 teams.

You're a smart cookie, I was about to correct you and say six (1967) but you refer back to 1931-1932, a lot of big names on that team:

Harvey "Busher" Jackson
Joe Primeau
Charlie Conacher
Andrew Blair
Bob Gracie
Frank Finnigan
Francis "King" Clancy
Harold "Baldy" Cotton
Reginald "Red" Horner
Clarence "Happy" Day
Harold Darragh
Irvine "Ace" Bailey
Alex Levinsky
Earl Miller
Syd Howe
Benny Grant
Fred Robertson
Lorne Chabot

[Neely2005]

Plus, there were drafting restrictions that prevented the U.S. teams from drafting within Ontario and Quebec.
Plus, for a period of several years, one owner controlled all four of the U.S. teams and stacked only the Detroit Red Wings with the best talent by trading the best players from the other US. teams to Detroit (anyone heard of the NHL - Norris House League?).
Have you ever wondered why the Bruins, Blackhawks, and Rangers rarely won the Stanley Cup while the Canadiens, Maple Leafs, and Red Wings regularly won it?

The Maple Leafs glorious history is not nearly so glorious when you are aware of how the rules were stacked against half of the (tiny, six-team) league.

Edit: btw, if anyone ever slags the CFL for being a small league (currently 9 teams), ask them if they are a Maple Leafs fan. If they are, feel free to mock their ignorance. The Maple Leafs have NEVER won a Stanley Cup in a league with more than 8 teams.

Yeah considering how few teams were in the NHL back then and the unfair advantages that the Canadian teams had pretty much everything before 1968 in the NHL should have an Asterisk beside it.

Once everyone started playing under the same rules in 1968 is when you can start making fair comparisons. Even though the leafs still had a spending advantage up until the Salary Cap came in, in 2005.

[1argoholic]

Speaking of championships, has TFC ever won anything? I don't follow the game. I don't recall ever hearing about them winning much.

We know Canada never wins squat in soccer. I'm in for ditching the Canadian soccer program and putting money into the Trans Canada Trail or sewer repairs.