Barker and Milanovich need to be fired!!!!!!!!!!

[1argoholic]

Kack attack!!!!

[Double Dare]

Kack attack!!!!

He's past his expiry date.

[Gill The Thrill]

He's past his expiry date.

Kackert still much better than Josey. He just takes a little while to get his motor going now. He also needs touches because I remember many, and I mean many, on this board saying he should've been cut because we had Cory Boyd in 2012. Was sold on Milanovich and the team winning the 2012 Grey Cup when they cut Boyd to make Kackert the undisputed #1 back. I think Kackert could be as effective as Whitaker and could provide a real balanced attack without depending on Ray to through 40 passes a game. Keep the defenses on their heals.

[cfl-cis fan]

could spread the ball to the rest of the team ........... that will keep the defenses guessing instead of knowing that it is only going to 3 people in the passing game!!

[Neely2005]

He's past his expiry date.

Based on what? In the one game that he was actually utilized properly last season he excelled. He hasn't been used properly since.

[Neely2005]

Kackert still much better than Josey. He just takes a little while to get his motor going now. He also needs touches because I remember many, and I mean many, on this board saying he should've been cut because we had Cory Boyd in 2012. Was sold on Milanovich and the team winning the 2012 Grey Cup when they cut Boyd to make Kackert the undisputed #1 back. I think Kackert could be as effective as Whitaker and could provide a real balanced attack without depending on Ray to through 40 passes a game. Keep the defenses on their heals.

I couldn't agree more! Kackert and Whitaker could be a deadly combination.

[R.J]

No way. In my view we are a RB and a new offensive strategy away from having a great season. The Defence is coming togrther quite nicely lots of individual talent that is learning to play together, and if we could get a RB that would intimidate opposing defences things would get a lot better on offence. Itsearly folks. With so few preseason games now it takes live action to build a team and the games all count so we dont get a lot of opportunity to experiment with points on the line. So we are getting to the point where players are learning to play as a team . Chill out, no one should get fired.

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How are we going to get a new offensive strategy without a change at the Head Coach/offensive coordinator position ?

[Argo]

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How are we going to get a new offensive strategy without a change at the Head Coach/offensive coordinator position ?

Given anything less than two playoff game victories, or one post-season win followed by a creditable loss, we could and should hope to see a new head coach.

($ I think I remember hearing that Barker and Milanovich signed three year contracts. $)

[cfl-cis fan]

I couldn't agree more! Kackert and Whitaker could be a deadly combination.

so could passing to the 2 FB/H-Backs ...........

[Rich]

I couldn't agree more! Kackert and Whitaker could be a deadly combination.

Whitaker is taking a beating in pass protection, but they keep sending him out there every series. In the past few seasons we've been dressing 2 INT RBs because it keeps the backs fresher, and I don't understand why we're not doing it this year with Kackert. We know the guy can pass block. I'd activate Kackert and deactivate Bates at WR and take my chances with Noel as backup WR.

[1argoholic]

I've said it many times and I stand by the fact that Milanovich is so conservative. So many things he could do to kick start the O but he does the same stuff game in and game out. Why have players dressed or hanging around when you have no plans on using them? Why keep doing the same plays that never work over and over again? Just have your favorite get the crap beat out of him game in and game out in Whitacher. I'm not for firing Milo but he does need to change things up. I'd have plays for the two young qb's other then the one yard plunge. If you don't keep the D guessing you've lost half the battle.

[Will]

Ever notice how the Argos will often get out to a 14-0 or 10-0 lead and then somehow the pedal goes off the metal and the other team is allowed to get back into it?

[AngeloV]

Whitaker is taking a beating in pass protection, but they keep sending him out there every series. In the past few seasons we've been dressing 2 INT RBs because it keeps the backs fresher, and I don't understand why we're not doing it this year with Kackert. We know the guy can pass block. I'd activate Kackert and deactivate Bates at WR and take my chances with Noel as backup WR.

I agree they should be using 2 backs to keep them fresher, but I don't think they need to use an import to spell Whitaker. I would love to see Coombs taking reps at RB.

[R.J]

Ever notice how the Argos will often get out to a 14-0 or 10-0 lead and then somehow the pedal goes off the metal and the other team is allowed to get back into it?

As I've said previously - one of two things always seems to occur under Milanovich. #1. Either the Argos get off to a quick start then slow down too much to allow other teams back into it or #2. the team gets off to slow start then show up out of desperation midway through the 3rd quarter.

[Argo]

I agree they should be using 2 backs to keep them fresher, but I don't think they need to use an import to spell Whitaker. I would love to see Coombs taking reps at RB.

So would I. In general, though, "running game" and Milanovich don't compute.

Was there any reason not to sign Andrew Harris, and did Barker even try?

[R.J]

Given anything less than two playoff game victories, or one post-season win followed by a creditable loss, we could and should hope to see a new head coach.

($ I think I remember hearing that Barker and Milanovich signed three year contracts. $)

Yup, and this is only the first year of their new 3 year extension, so we're stuck for awhile it seems. IMO a mistake was made with at least one of those extensions, and depending on certain circumstances, both could've ended up as mistakes.

So would I. In general, though, "running game" and Milanovich don't compute.

Was there any reason not to sign Andrew Harris, and did Barker even try?

Harris was going back home; he brought up multiple times that he wanted to be with his daughter. I doubt Barker even made a phone call, but tbh unless he was willing to significantly pay more than $180k; Barker would've "lost out" on Harris anyway.

[Argo]

Yup, and this is only the first year of their new 3 year extension, so we're stuck for awhile it seems. IMO a mistake was made with at least one of those extensions, and depending on certain circumstances, both could've ended up as mistakes.


Harris was going back home; he brought up multiple times that he wanted to be with his daughter. I doubt Barker even made a phone call, but tbh unless he was willing to significantly more than $180k; Barker would've "lost out" on Harris anyway.

Re: Harris - ok, got it.

[AngeloV]

So would I. In general, though, "running game" and Milanovich don't compute.

Was there any reason not to sign Andrew Harris, and did Barker even try?

Not just Milanovich. It's all over the league this year. Duane Forde was on Ti-Cats lunch today and when discussing the amount of challenges that have been made, noted that the fact that so many things on the passing game are now challengeable, teams are throwing more, because even if a play doesn't work out, there is a good chance that there will be some type of infraction in the secondary. A really good point. I get the PI challenge, but IMO, the illegal contact needs to be taken out, and let the officials use their judgement.

As for Harris, apparently the Argos made a significant offer to him (I think I read it on Kirk Penton's blog), but he chose to go back home.

[R.J]

Not just Milanovich. It's all over the league this year. Duane Forde was on Ti-Cats lunch today and when discussing the amount of challenges that have been made, noted that the fact that so many things on the passing game are now challengeable, teams are throwing more, because even if a play doesn't work out, there is a good chance that there will be some type of infraction in the secondary. A really good point. I get the PI challenge, but IMO, the illegal contact needs to be taken out, and let the officials use their judgement.

Easy fix, but I doubt it'll happen. Take out the challenges and revert back to the old contact and PI rules. Video review (command centre and only if the refs call it in) should only be for turnovers, scoring plays, in or out of bounds, and/or within the last 3 minutes of the game. The eye in the sky should fix the mistakes, and ball placements - this way I don't have to hear "the ball will be placed right there" ever again.

As for Harris, apparently the Argos made a significant offer to him (I think I read it on Kirk Penton's blog), but he chose to go back home.

Correct. I forgot about that.

[AngeloV]

Easy fix, but I doubt it'll happen. Take out the challenges and revert back to the old contact and PI rules. Video review (command centre and only if the refs calls it in) should only be for turnovers, scoring plays, in or out of bounds, and/or within the last 3 minutes of the game. The eye in the sky should fix the mistakes, and ball placements - this way I don't have to hear "the ball will be placed right there" ever again.

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I am 100% on board with that.

All these reviews are really annoying. I don't know if I am the only one that has noticed this, but Mike Reilly seems to complain every time he gets touched now. I'm all for protecting the QB's on hard hits low, or to the head, but when a player just grazes a QB, I get so frustrated with the calls.