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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowRogue View Post
    http://www.argonauts.ca/2016/11/06/milanovich-nov-6/




    So, if Willy needed an off season to learn the system, then why trade for him, instead of waiting for Winnipeg to cut him ?
    I don't even know what else can be said about Milanovich anymore, I really don't.
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    I am not certain Popp has gone quite as insane as people think. His downfall was not finding a decent QB to replace Anthony, but I think the team still had sufficient talent at other positions. However, obviously one of the Argos flaws is not having a decent replacement to Ricky Ray.
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    Just wondering if we'll get any word from management this week? Barker, Copeland etc.


    Montreal cut ties with Popp, so the wheels are rolling there.
    Jones addressed the media for a year end conference in Sask.
    And in Toronto....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowRogue View Post

    So, if Willy needed an off season to learn the system, then why trade for him, instead of waiting for Winnipeg to cut him ?
    You realize there is no guarantee he was going to be cut. They might have renegotiated his deal and he'd be "Drew Tate" in Winnipeg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antwon View Post
    Just wondering if we'll get any word from management this week? Barker, Copeland etc.


    Montreal cut ties with Popp, so the wheels are rolling there.
    Jones addressed the media for a year end conference in Sask.
    And in Toronto....
    I'd be surprised. They won't make any team announcements until GC is over, if they even make one. (No need when status quo is kept)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    I'd be surprised. They won't make any team announcements until GC is over, if they even make one. (No need when status quo is kept)
    Probably right, but a state of the franchise press conference would be nice. It's a good way to stay in the news too.
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    Zurkowsky brought up Barker's name, if he does become available, I wonder how long before Milanovich eventually ends up in Montreal. (Obviously a hypothetical here)

    Naylor is also pretty adamant that Trestman is not a GM type, and to put it mildly I agree. Trestman has never done much scouting and the like, doesn't seem to care for it.

    Sunderland's name has been coming up quite a bit as of late, and surprisingly John Murphy's hasn't.

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    I will switch Barker and Milanovich for Popp and Trestman any day of the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argotom View Post
    I will switch Barker and Milanovich for Popp and Trestman any day of the week.
    Then Trestman can bring in the OC and asst HC he had in Montreal to complete the rebuild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    Then Trestman can bring in the OC and asst HC he had in Montreal to complete the rebuild.
    No, been there done that bought the T shirt.
    What a mess we are in right now.

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    Good organizations, which experience substantial failure, normally examine two factors. First: Is leadership the primary cause for the failure and if so, are attractive replacement candidates available. Second:Will it be necessary for the organization to take visibly dramatic measures in order to retain, regain and renew the client base(ticket buyers).

    For the Argos, it is difficult not to conclude that leadership was the primary cause for the season's failure. The coach is responsible to make the right decisions to create a winning team. The GM is responsible for providing the team with players who will enable the team to win We know, that for what ever reason, neither met those responsibilities successfully.

    Some might argue that the second factor is a P.R. move. Yes it is but this team is in desperate need for dramatic and highly visible P.R. moves to excite present and future fans. Ownership has to "sell" the fans, it is irrevocably committed to creating a winning team regardless of the cost.

    If there are changes,there are several intriguing candidates for both positions. For what it is worth, I'd recommend high risk/high reward choices and go with O'Shea as coach and Rossetti as GM. There are many reasons why these choices can be criticized but O'Shea is at the end of his contract and the right inducements of salary and complete control might attract him. Rossetti is obviously very young but he has an encyclopedic knowledge of football talent both here and in the states. He is ambitious and might see this as a future path to a similar job in the NFL. Besides he might well appeal to the millennial generation, often called the CFL's lost generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    You realize there is no guarantee he was going to be cut. They might have renegotiated his deal and he'd be "Drew Tate" in Winnipeg.
    LOL
    You simply have to grab a talent like Willy when you get the opportunity!!
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    If O'Shea were to leave Winnipeg and come here, he could be reunited with Drew Willy....oh, wait, never mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shatto View Post
    If there are changes,there are several intriguing candidates for both positions. For what it is worth, I'd recommend high risk/high reward choices and go with O'Shea as coach and Rossetti as GM. There are many reasons why these choices can be criticized but O'Shea is at the end of his contract and the right inducements of salary and complete control might attract him. Rossetti is obviously very young but he has an encyclopedic knowledge of football talent both here and in the states. He is ambitious and might see this as a future path to a similar job in the NFL. Besides he might well appeal to the millennial generation, often called the CFL's lost generation.
    I've thought about Rosetti as well. Not sure he's ready to be a GM, but he's definitely worth talking to. He may be now where Popp was 25 years ago. I'd also like to explore some of the young guns in the Ticats' front office. Someone mentioned Shawn Burke as a real comer, and I think they actually have a few guys like that who are being developed for roles involving greater responsibility. O'Shea is an interesting option as head coach. I would have thought he'd be reupped by now, but it appears he was smart to wait since there are two openings to at least use as leverage.
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    At the stage this franchise is at especially off field and after a disastrous attendance season to include being at the bottom of the entertainment pecking order, now is not the time to hire an unproven "rookie" GM and or coach.
    My first choice would be Tillman, but if not then Popp provided he goes back to the exclusive duties to include recruitment with contacts in the US, plus Trestman as HC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argotom View Post
    At the stage this franchise is at especially off field and after a disastrous attendance season to include being at the bottom of the entertainment pecking order, now is not the time to hire an unproven "rookie" GM and or coach.
    My first choice would be Tillman, but if not then Popp provided he goes back to the exclusive duties to include recruitment with contacts in the US, plus Trestman as HC.
    Barker, Tillman, Popp and the like were all unproven when they were given their chances years ago.
    Maybe time to find "the next guy" and give him a chance to implement some fresh ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    LOL
    You simply have to grab a talent like Willy when you get the opportunity!!
    With both hands!

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    Quote Originally Posted by argotom View Post
    At the stage this franchise is at especially off field and after a disastrous attendance season to include being at the bottom of the entertainment pecking order, now is not the time to hire an unproven "rookie" GM and or coach.
    My first choice would be Tillman,
    Funny, I could swear Hamilton took a huge step backwards in this Tillman't first official season as GM.
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