Argo players of the past that you regret the team getting rid of.

[R.J]

Didn't Duingan leave for Winnipeg, because McNall didn't want to pay him $450-500k ? I don't think it was because Rita wanted to go with the younger Foggie.

[ArgoGabe22]

Pacino Horne!!! They should've given him the big extension he demanded after 2012.

[PullTogether73]

I'd like to see more Argos like Masotti, Pinball and Moen start and play their whole CFL careers with us. I really hate when guys leave for a year or two near the end of their careers to another team.

Yah, one of my favourite Argos all-time, Kevin Eiben, should have finished his career in double blue.
Seeing him in Ti-Cats black and yellow was awful.

[AngeloV]

Didn't Duingan leave for Winnipeg, because McNall didn't want to pay him $450-500k ? I don't think it was because Rita wanted to go with the younger Foggie.

Not sure if that was McNall's call or Mike McCarthy's.

The way I remember it, McCarthy wanted to sign him to a deal where cash was based on games played. Dunnigan balked (as he should have) and tested the market.

[Bleeds Double Blue]

Yah, one of my favourite Argos all-time, Kevin Eiben, should have finished his career in double blue.
Seeing him in Ti-Cats black and yellow was awful.

I feel the same way about seeing CO2 in a Hamilton uni. I get the reasoning but it's still tough to see.

[Bleeds Double Blue]

Also, from the Way Back Machine, Gordon Judges was an Argonaut on a couple of different occasions. He turned out to be a pretty decent defensive lineman for the Als. Earlier in his career he wasn't able to crack the Argo lineup so he played a season for the Bramalea Satellites. How's that for ancient history?

[Will]

Sure wasn't happy when Coach Dracula (with the big NFL credentials) played a part in trading our best receiver (Arland Bruce) to our biggest enemies (Hamilton Ti-Cats)

Letting Bruce go definitely angered me at the time, and where he ended up angered me even more, but the decision to let Bruce go was technically the right one.

[Ron]

The way I remember it, McCarthy wanted to sign him to a deal where cash was based on games played. Dunnigan balked (as he should have) and tested the market.

Bingo!

[Ron]

Pless was traded along with a whole whack of other Argos for Dunigan - who played for the Argos for how many seasons? Beauty to get an all-time great QB who helped win ONE GC; giving up an all-time great CFL linebacker as part of the deal = no.

Pless should have been an untouchable IMO;

All your roster ideas finally make sense. Actually winning a championship is not as valuable to you as having a player you like fill a roster spot.

[R.J]

Not sure if that was McNall's call or Mike McCarthy's.

The way I remember it, McCarthy wanted to sign him to a deal where cash was based on games played. Dunnigan balked (as he should have) and tested the market.

I remember reading in the double blue book we received in 2008 that Adam Rita brought up how Ownership wasn't spending money like they used to. TBH, I have no idea, as I wasn't a fan at that time. Heck, even if I was a fan I wouldn't have remembered anyways, seeing as I was only 4 years old at the time lol.

[Will]

I remember reading in the double blue book we received in 2008 that Adam Rita brought up how Ownership wasn't spending money like they used to. TBH, I have no idea, as I wasn't a fan at that time. Heck, even if I was a fan I wouldn't have remembered anyways, seeing as I was only 4 years old at the time lol.

I don't remember the '91 season myself other than a few vague memories of being at a few games. I do remember being at the Calgary/Toronto game in 1992 in which the Argos were shutout.

McNall's legal troubles hadn't surfaced yet by the 1991-1992 offseason I don't believe.

[Will]

Pacino Horne!!! They should've given him the big extension he demanded after 2012.

You laugh but it isn't as if Barker has been able to find the right 5 guys since then.

[R.J]

I don't remember the '91 season myself other than a few vague memories of being at a few games. I do remember being at the Calgary/Toronto game in 1992 in which the Argos were shutout.

McNall's legal troubles hadn't surfaced yet by the 1991-1992 offseason I don't believe.

I'm aware, just pointing out what I read in the book.

McNall's interest was said to be waneing at this point, and the money issues were visible I suppose. McCarthy brought up during the "John Candy True Double Blue" doc that he knew money was going from the Argonauts ticketing office to LA to pay hockey bills.

[ArgoRavi]

I'm aware, just pointing out what I read in the book.

McNall's interest was said to be waneing at this point, and the money issues were visible I suppose. McCarthy brought up during the "John Candy True Double Blue" doc that he knew money was going from the Argonauts ticketing office to LA to pay hockey bills.

McNall's financial troubles IIRC were starting to surface in the off-season after the 1991 Grey Cup win. I even recall Marty York writing a column suggesting that McNall was already starting to "lose interest" in the Argos at the start of the 1992 season. His legal problems would take a bit more time to become evident but things slowly started to go south during that off-season after the '91 season.

[R.J]

From Double Blue:

While 1991 began and ended in true Hollywood fashion, it turned into a horror show just nine months later. Despite the Grey Cup victory the Argos lost #3.5 million. The red link had a direct effect on the 1992 season. To start with, the Argos were unwilling to give Dunigan, who had played out his option and missed most of the 1991 season due to injury, a new contract in the $450,000 to $500,000 range. He eventually jumped to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers as a free agent.

The loss of Dunigan was probably the most profound factor in the team's struggle in '92. Rickey Foggie was handed the starting job backed by newcomers John Congemi and Mike Kerrigan. But Foggie suffered a cracked bone in his ankle in a pre-season game and, while he continued to play, he was ineffective. By September, with the team sporting a 3-8 record, Adam Rita, who had been named coach of the year only months before, was fired and replaced by assistant Dennis Meyer.

"Matt was gone. The was the biggest thing," said Rita in reflecting how the team sagged so badly after the Grey Cup win. "And te, having Rickey injured was tough. We got a little complacent as a team. No matter what I did I couldn't get them out of the doldrums. We were never able to overcome our injuries. We didn't have the same kind of depth that we had the previous two years. The ownership wasn't spending money anymore."

This part's just sad.

"Quick" McNall was heard to quip prior to a game as he scanned the players clothes hanging in the Argos' empty dressing room. "Go though the pockets and see if there's any loose change. We might need it."

[AngeloV]

To start with, the Argos were unwilling to give Dunigan, who had played out his option and missed most of the 1991 season due to injury, a new contract in the $450,000 to $500,000 range. He eventually jumped to the Winnipeg Blue Bombers as a free agent.

This part is a little misleading. McCarthy at the time swore that if Dunnigan had played a full season, he would have made the money he was looking for. The fact that he offered it based on the amount of games Dunnigan played rather than make it a hard annual salary, was the reason he didn't sign.

[Argo]

Also, from the Way Back Machine, Gordon Judges was an Argonaut on a couple of different occasions. He turned out to be a pretty decent defensive lineman for the Als. Earlier in his career he wasn't able to crack the Argo lineup so he played a season for the Bramalea Satellites. How's that for ancient history?

Very impressive, actually.

[KCargosfan]

Pacino Horne!!! They should've given him the big extension he demanded after 2012.

haha, thumbs up to you, sir.

[argolio]

All your roster ideas finally make sense. Actually winning a championship is not as valuable to you as having a player you like fill a roster spot.

The writers who vote for CIS and CFL all-stars are the real champions.

[Stevoman]

Eddie Thomas, Darrel K. Smith (although I guess he really was done), Matt Dunigan, Derrell Mitchell, Chad Owens.