I had a similar experience with my son's high school. I offered to sponsor "Huddle Up". There was no interest at all from the school even though there are a number of CFL players who live locally.
Students have no knowledge or interest in the CFL, but find the NFL cool. My son's teacher openly challenged my son's contention that the SkyDome was built for the Blue Jays AND Argos. Fortunately my son's knowledge is greater than this person in authority.
I remember a similar situation 35 years ago, but there was a baseline of Argos/CFL.
Even among high school and local rep football teams, a number of the players have a disdain for CFL players. I can trace that back to the parents who openly trash the league. Doesn't bode well for the future of the league in the CFL.
Sorry for my lack of appropriate punctuation and spacing.....when I rant its more a stream of consciousness (or BS), kind of thing.....
As for the history, I was just referring to the fact of over 100 years of Grey Cups vs 50 years or so of Super Bowls, the point was they've both been around a long time, those who who are interested in football in this country should know the basic differences by now....
Argos 1983, makes an excellent point about inexpensive tickets for young people. Either through a sponsor, such as a grocery chain, as AngeloV suggested or directly from the organization. How about having local high school teams that have won a championship presented on field, before the game or at halftime - imagine their folks, relatives and friends would be pleased to be there to see that, especially if the can buy tickets at a reduced price. The team has to create a buzz and get bums on seats!! Copeland needs to be creative.
Being accurate.
I figured that's what you meant - just that it wasn't what you said.
Agreed that education of a long running sport tradition in this country should not be necessary.
Canadians invented this game after all and Americans changed it to suit their stadiums (afaik).
I don't understand what is so shameful about being Canadian and appreciating Canadian institutions and traditions.
My parents came from a small country in South America. They made sure to take me to Maple Leafs, Argonauts, Metro-Croatia (soccer) games as a child and expose me to Canadian sporting institutions. I've been a fan ever since.
Today it's soccer and cricket. That's fine, but...?
Not that this really matters, but I'm surprised by how many people were surprised to learn how hot it is on the east side in afternoons and early evenings. The same conditions applied to a good chunk of the Rogers Centre east side when the roof was open on a sunny day. Granted the RC is cavernous enough that some shadows emerge as the sun moves, but I stopped sitting on the east side years ago because it was way too hot and sunny at times. I hope this does not become a serious impediment to selling tickets over there as the years go on. I would not argue against cheaper tickets on that side, to encourage fuller stands there. And lots of evening games.
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TORONTO ARGONAUTS FOOTBALL CLUB
GREY CUP CHAMPIONS: 1914, 1921, 1933, 1937, 1938, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1950, 1952, 1983, 1991, 1996, 1997, 2004, 2012, 2017, 2022
Does anyone else think that season ticket numbers are going down next season?
No Grey Cup
Team was terrible in 2016
Traded away the first overall pick for an average QB
BMO Field novelty has worn off
People know that there will be lots of tickets available for every game
In season ticket pricing promotions
Alienated some of the existing season ticket holders
Some season ticket holders increased their number of season tickets from the Rogers Centre and will now decrease the number back down
When he mentions needing the minor league hockey/baseball approach targeting groups sales, the only relevant example I can think of would be the Marlies. I don't pay much attention to them, but I was under the impression that they've usually had only small crowds except for 2 or 3 times a year when they have 11 a.m. weekday games and arrange for a few thousand school kids to be there.
http://www.marlies.ca/tickets/SchoolGroups.asp
I don't understand how that could apply to the Argos, since it's not realistic to suggest having a weekday game start at 11 a.m.!
I'd much rather have poor sentence structure than crappy subject matter. I'm good with his posts.
And I'll go back to what I have been saying for years. Society today equates quality with revenue and salaries. Really is sad. Since many players in the NFL make more money than an entire teams cap in the CFL, they look down upon it.
I think they will increase again. IMO, they haven't even scratched the surface in corporate and group sales. Everything just seemed so rushed in 2016.
It's us vs the rest of the country
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Bouncing Back: From National Joke to Grey Cup Champs (https://bit.ly/3fvip5x)
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Funny that you bring this up.
I was at the Mississauga Steelheads game this past Wednesday - one of their two mid-week 11:00 am school day games held each year (there were 4 of these games on Wednesday in the OHL btw, not just the Steelheads).
While the arena was the most full I've seen it since I started going to games last year (obviously arranged to include as many schools as possible), the noise level was easily the loudest I have ever heard.
While the Argonauts cannot have a mid-week day game, perhaps a Thursday or Friday evening game would be possible to bus in school groups after school for a 7:00 pm start?
A great way to get them while they're young I say.
It would create a lot of resentment among existing fans who say they can't get downtown that early on a workday. That complaint has been registered here before. So potentially attract a new generation of kids but tick off a portion of your existing fanbase. Tough call.
Year of the Rocket: John Candy, Wayne Gretzky, a Crooked Tycoon, and the Craziest Season in Football History (https://sutherlandhousebooks.com/pro...of-the-rocket/)
Bouncing Back: From National Joke to Grey Cup Champs (https://bit.ly/3fvip5x)
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I think the lower East Side seats could become a real problem to fill on afternoon games in the Summer. They will only fool people once. I remember walking around the first pre-season game before and at half time to different locations to check things out. It would have been unbearable for me to sit there on hot humid days. Later in the fall it would be enjoyable on a sunny cool day. So I agree evening games only until mid September. I would think that would be easy for Management to clue in on that issue.
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