"If I was Michael Copeland" - Ideas for Argos off-the-field 2017 Thread

[Mulder]

An easy one would have been to have 2017 season tickets available for sale during the Grey Cup. My brother and some of his friends attended and want to buy season tickets for next season and where surprised to find out that they're not on sale yet.

This is interesting, because the people I was with said their friends who lived in Toronto had fun at the game as well and are thinking about season tickets, something may be starting to simmer with regards to the Argos in Toronto. It's up to the organization to capitalize.

[Neely2005]

This is interesting, because the people I was with said their friends who lived in Toronto had fun at the game as well and are thinking about season tickets, something may be starting to simmer with regards to the Argos in Toronto. It's up to the organization to capitalize.

Well hopefully they get back to work quickly and don't lose more momentum.

[R.J]

An easy one would have been to have 2017 season tickets available for sale during the Grey Cup. My brother and some of his friends attended and want to buy season tickets for next season and where surprised to find out that they're not on sale yet.

Such a good opportunity missed.

Just an fyi, Hogan was on TSN 1150 earlier and brought up that there's some rumblings about Copeland kept for next season.

[paulwoods13]

Just an fyi, Hogan was on TSN 1150 earlier and brought up that there's some rumblings about Copeland kept for next season.

Simmons reported same rumblings a week ago. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. Maybe instead of a football czar, they hire an uber-president (Leiwecke type) and drop both Copeland and Barker down a rung, one to lead biz ops and one to lead football ops, and both on a short leash.

[doubleblue]

Such a good opportunity missed.

Just an fyi, Hogan was on TSN 1150 earlier and brought up that there's some rumblings about Copeland kept for next season.

Argos need someone like Keith Pelley as President IMO.

[Mightygoose]

Simmons reported same rumblings a week ago. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. Maybe instead of a football czar, they hire an uber-president (Leiwecke type) and drop both Copeland and Barker down a rung, one to lead biz ops and one to lead football ops, and both on a short leash.

Sounds like a bit of a demotion for Copeland? Is he being made of a scapegoat (maybe on some level deserved) for the off field issues and Grey Cup Fiasco?

Perhaps someone he can learn under...who knows but I would be nice to see some changes...

[R.J]

Simmons reported same rumblings a week ago. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out. Maybe instead of a football czar, they hire an uber-president (Leiwecke type) and drop both Copeland and Barker down a rung, one to lead biz ops and one to lead football ops, and both on a short leash.

MLSE already has Leweike's replacement in Mr. Friisdahl (I know it's a different organization, just a bit confused as to your meaning). Copeland is the Pres and C.E.O, so remove the C.E.O title, or drop him to V.P of whatever, and hire Copeland's replacement ? Why even bother having Copeland and Moore around then ? What would Barker be dropped to, Asst. GM (only has the GM title currently) ? I doubt that will happen. Not sure why this issue is so difficult, Craig Reynolds was a life long accountant, and somehow had the knowledge to hire Jones and Murphy in Sask. Forzani Group brought in Hufnagel, Scott Mitchell brought in Austin, Jeff Hunt is the guy who hired Marcel Desjardins, etc.

I do wonder who's making some of the decisions here though re: ticket prices, Grey Cup prices etc, and even this supposed football czar crap, and to be honest, I'm starting to question what's going on in Toronto.

Argos need someone like Keith Pelley as President IMO.

I always felt that if MLSE bought the team in 2003, and Keith Pelley was around for the rebuild and a joint BMO from day one, that we wouldn't be talking about the Argos issues right now. People can say what they want about Pelley, but the team was considerably more visible under his tenure than it is today.

[paulwoods13]

I'm saying they may hire a Leiwecke type as the overall president, and effectively demote Copeland to head of business ops, reporting to the new president. Thought that was clear. It has nothing to do with MLSE except that Leiwecke worked there so he came to mind as an example of the type/profile of boss needed.

[R.J]

I'm saying they may hire a Leiwecke type as the overall president, and effectively demote Copeland to head of business ops, reporting to the new president. Thought that was clear. It has nothing to do with MLSE except that Leiwecke worked there so he came to mind as an example of the type/profile of boss needed.

So what happens to Moore (Current Sr. vp of business ops) ?

[Mightygoose]

So what happens to Moore (Current Sr. vp of business ops) ?

A sacraficial lamb perhaps? She was the chair of the Grey Cup comittee and the fiasco that became. Someone has to pay the price.

I confess it is a cruel throught.

[ArgoGabe22]

So what happens to Moore (Current Sr. vp of business ops) ?

From what I've heard from those who had to deal with her in person, she can take a hike.

[paulwoods13]

So what happens to Moore (Current Sr. vp of business ops) ?

Obviously, if a new president is appointed, all best are off for all current members of the admin. Copeland, Moore, Barker could all be kept or all be gassed.

[Jayahre]

Let the owner Larry Tannenbaum, who is also chairman of TFC and MLSE, turn the management over to TFC !!
They probably should fire the old football guys and let the young successful soccer guys show them how to run a business.

[Neely2005]

Should I be expecting a similar Email from the Argonauts?

http://info.ottawaredblacks.com/nl/j...2be9071c48977a

Again, should I be expecting a similar Email from the Argonauts?

http://info.ottawaredblacks.com/nl/j...126424f5861afe

[Neely2005]

Let the owner Larry Tannenbaum, who is also chairman of TFC and MLSE, turn the management over to TFC !!
They probably should fire the old football guys and let the young successful soccer guys show them how to run a business.

Yes because 1 season of on field success for TFC overshadows a decade of on field incompetence.

[Mightygoose]

From what I've heard from those who had to deal with her in person, she can take a hike.

Take it for what it's worth.

I was speaking with my former co-working/current client who is with MLSE

Says there will be some heads to roll in both the coaching/management and on the executive level.

Though he can't name anything he let out a 'Sa' but wouldn't let me know if I connected the dots right or wrong re: Post 230.

We shall see.......

[AngeloV]

Let the owner Larry Tannenbaum, who is also chairman of TFC and MLSE, turn the management over to TFC !!
They probably should fire the old football guys and let the young successful soccer guys show them how to run a business.

Why do you even post here?

[doubleblue]

Take it for what it's worth.

I was speaking with my former co-working/current client who is with MLSE

Says there will be some heads to roll in both the coaching/management and on the executive level.

Though he can't name anything he let out a 'Sa' but wouldn't let me know if I connected the dots right or wrong re: Post 230.

We shall see.......

One could almost take that to mean Sally Moore. I think Milanovich knows he's as good as gone. Barker might be happy to just retire to California and do some scouting for the Argos to earn some of his pay.
I'm starting to like the sound on a new Leiwecke type head honcho to try and straighten this mess out.

[R.J]

Take it for what it's worth.

I was speaking with my former co-working/current client who is with MLSE

Says there will be some heads to roll in both the coaching/management and on the executive level.

Though he can't name anything he let out a 'Sa' but wouldn't let me know if I connected the dots right or wrong re: Post 230.

We shall see.......

If things continue, I'd like to see Copeland gone as well.

Why do you even post here?

I guess trolling the CFl forums wasn't enough for him, or maybe he's surprised that the Argos are still alive (he stated previously on the CFl forums that the Argonauts would be dead and buried by this time).

[AngeloV]

I guess trolling the CFl forums wasn't enough for him, or maybe he's surprised that the Argos are still alive (he stated previously on the CFl forums that the Argonauts would be dead and buried by this time).

I just don't get it. We have a few fans of other teams that post here and add quite a bit of good to this site. Then we have him. I personally don't post on other teams fan forum sites, but if I did, I don't think I would only come around to piss others off.