"If I was Michael Copeland" - Ideas for Argos off-the-field 2017 Thread

[Stevoman]

Haha...an hour after I made my post, I saw this:https://torontoargonauts.exposure.co...hts-in-calgary, a nice coincidence!

[paulwoods13]

The suggestion by "Gillthethrill" of having a beat writer along the lines of the Ti-Cat's Drew Edwards, is a really important suggestion.

The only way the team can influence this is to hire its own reporter and publish his/her content on an Argo-owned site. More and more teams and leagues are doing this (including Blue Bombers) but it's not cheap as you have to pay the reporter and have an editor handle the content. Drew Edwards does a good job but he works for a newspaper that has (accurately IMO) determined that the Tiger-Cats have a large enough following in Hamilton to warrant daily reporting. In Toronto, Argos are at best the fourth-biggest team in town and the newspapers (other than the Sun) have not chosen have someone fully dedicated to Argo coverage. Nothing the organization can do will change that.

[1971GreyCup]

The only way the team can influence this is to hire its own reporter and publish his/her content on an Argo-owned site. More and more teams and leagues are doing this (including Blue Bombers) but it's not cheap as you have to pay the reporter and have an editor handle the content. Drew Edwards does a good job but he works for a newspaper that has (accurately IMO) determined that the Tiger-Cats have a large enough following in Hamilton to warrant daily reporting. In Toronto, Argos are at best the fourth-biggest team in town and the newspapers (other than the Sun) have not chosen have someone fully dedicated to Argo coverage. Nothing the organization can do will change that.

Maybe the recently retired Curtis Rush could be coaxed into this role? Ideal with his football pedigree at The Star. I see he is doing great freelance work for The New York Times, and The Wall Street Journal on Canadian hockey and baseball. Might Just for him. We just need a recently retired editor to complete the package. Know anyone Paul that fits the bill?

[Argoknot]

Yup, there was fallout from the recent Dean Blundell incident and Rogers was none to pleased.

Curious, what did he do?

[shayman]

- If I am not mistaken, there is out there somewhere an 'Argos cheer-type song'. I think we should resurrect it and really use that to hype the crowd especially after TD's are scored. The Oskee wee wee thing really works for the TiCats, and I saw the same thing at a Philadelphia Eagles home game. Every time they scored, they played this cheer and the crowd went nuts.

Yes, indeed - "Go Argos Go" from the 1968 Dal Richards album "CFL Songs." Listen to the whole album here - http://argonotes.com/CFLSongs/

here's the original recording - http://argonotes.com/CFLSongs/Argos.mp3
and the version we play now - http://argonotes.com/GAG.mp3
and a songsheet with the lyrics- http://argonotes.com/Songsheet.pdf

and for completeness since you mentioned it, here's "Fly Eagles Fly", one of the better NFL songs- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b97wo2Ekww


(The band has been playing Go Argos Go a dozen times a game for 20 years, before and after the game and after every score, but nobody can hear it and the team always seems to have other ideas about touchdown celebrations, but we'll keep trying.)

[ArgoFan1]

Argos and the league in whole need to work out much better schedules. With Hamilton being the main tenant at THF, they were 6 weeks between home games !!! What moron at the CFL scheduled that? Argos had a long period with no home games as well, four weeks. There is absolutely no excuse for such lousy scheduling, when most CFL teams are the main team at their stadium. Being away for a month just takes the team out of the spotlight for too long. I would say maximum three weeks between games. Cannot be too hard to do. I don't really mind the day of the week it is played on, as sometime variety is good, but if they really want to push the tailgating, it has to be a weekend game.
I think there just has to be a general reduction in ticket prices across the board, but mainly on the lower end. When you are not getting customers, you must always reduce the price and entice them back.

[moeajram]

Argos and the league in whole need to work out much better schedules. With Hamilton being the main tenant at THF, they were 6 weeks between home games !!! What moron at the CFL scheduled that? Argos had a long period with no home games as well, four weeks. There is absolutely no excuse for such lousy scheduling, when most CFL teams are the main team at their stadium. Being away for a month just takes the team out of the spotlight for too long. I would say maximum three weeks between games. Cannot be too hard to do. I don't really mind the day of the week it is played on, as sometime variety is good, but if they really want to push the tailgating, it has to be a weekend game.
I think there just has to be a general reduction in ticket prices across the board, but mainly on the lower end. When you are not getting customers, you must always reduce the price and entice them back.

You are so right about the schedule, how about the number of times we had games within less then a week at home such as October 10 vs Calgary and then less then 5 days later on October 15 we were at home playing Sask.

[PullTogether73]

Yes, indeed - "Go Argos Go" from the 1968 Dal Richards album "CFL Songs." Listen to the whole album here - http://argonotes.com/CFLSongs/

here's the original recording - http://argonotes.com/CFLSongs/Argos.mp3
and the version we play now - http://argonotes.com/GAG.mp3
and a songsheet with the lyrics- http://argonotes.com/Songsheet.pdf

and for completeness since you mentioned it, here's "Fly Eagles Fly", one of the better NFL songs- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b97wo2Ekww


(The band has been playing Go Argos Go a dozen times a game for 20 years, before and after the game and after every score, but nobody can hear it and the team always seems to have other ideas about touchdown celebrations, but we'll keep trying.)

I REALLY wish the Argonauts would establish the tradition of playing the team fight song after touchdowns.
I've attended a few Bears games in Chicago and they do that, and it's awesome having the entire stadium singing "Bear Down" as the music is played on the speakers and the lyrics flash on the video board. (I find the Bears song much better than the Eagles song btw.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2dccJ3MCgU0

The Buffalo Bills do the same thing, but their "The Bills Make Me Want to Shout" song is kind of weak.

I think it would be cool to have the Argonotes record the Argonauts fight song with the Toronto Symphony Orchestra - a video at Roy Thomson Hall with the Argonotes in full regalia in front of the TSO.

[paulwoods13]

Mark me down as vociferously in favour of Go Argos Go being restored to its rightful place as the post-TD song played in stadium. Dal's version or (micd/amplified) Argonotes, either would be great.

There's another Argo song from 1981 that could also be resurrected. http://bouncingbackbook.ca/post/4437...hem-argos-over

[Will]

I REALLY wish the Argonauts would establish the tradition of playing the team fight song after touchdowns.
I've attended a few Bears games in Chicago and they do that, and it's awesome having the entire stadium singing "Bear Down" as the music is played on the speakers and the lyrics flash on the video board. (I find the Bears song much better than the Eagles song btw.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2dccJ3MCgU0

The Buffalo Bills do the same thing, but their "The Bills Make Me Want to Shout" song is kind of weak.

I think it would be cool to have the Argonotes record the Argonauts fight song with the Toronto Symphony Orchestra - a video at Roy Thomson Hall with the Argonotes in full regalia in front of the TSO.

I'm partial to the SKOL VIKINGS song, but then again I'm probably a bit biased in that department.

[Will]

We heard much about this market research that was supposedly done prior to the season. Several theories have been presented by members here such as their research determined that the re-branding/re-build would be a long-term job (attendance this season more or less laid that out) and that the reason Liberty Village was targeted was due to the fact that the schedule was NOT family-friendly. However, I still can't fathom their pricing strategy. It is true that some of the other sports teams in Toronto are known for higher ticket prices, but the Argos are/were not dealing from an equal footing. I think the front office now realizes this and thus adjustments will be made to the pricing (hopefully) for next year.

While I despise the Tiger-Cats, I have to admit that I feel more valued as an STH by that team than I do as an Argo. Now, when Bob Young bought the Ticats in 2004 he had to go through some growing pains as well so I recognize that this takes time. But, I feel kept in the loop by the Ticats through emails, STH events and stuff like that even though I have no interest in attending them as a non-Ticat fan. It is the thought that counts to me. Once the Argos get their footing, I'm hoping that they can start to implement some of this stuff because best practices isn't a bad thing.

[Neely2005]

Curious, what did he do?

http://3downnation.com/2016/05/17/16252/

[AngeloV]

You are so right about the schedule, how about the number of times we had games within less then a week at home such as October 10 vs Calgary and then less then 5 days later on October 15 we were at home playing Sask.

5 games between July 31 and Aug 23 (5, 6, 6 and 6 days between games). That is a brutal schedule.

[R.J]

5 games between July 31 and Aug 23 (5, 6, 6 and 6 days between games). That is a brutal schedule.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see that as a big deal. Montreal's schedule the last 2 seasons has been worse IMO. Add in that the Ticats were 6 weeks away from home this season IIRC.

[AngeloV]

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see that as a big deal. Montreal's schedule the last 2 seasons has been worse IMO. Add in that the Ticats were 6 weeks away from home this season IIRC.

I think the issue is that in the 4 games following July 31, they played a more rested team. Even the 2nd of home and home with the Cats was advantage Cats, because the Argos were playing their 3rd game in 11 days.

[Will]

I think the issue is that in the 4 games following July 31, they played a more rested team. Even the 2nd of home and home with the Cats was advantage Cats, because the Argos were playing their 3rd game in 11 days.

At the end of the day, how much did this result in a 5-12 record though?

[AngeloV]

At the end of the day, how much did this result in a 5-12 record though?

Who really knows? They were good against BC in game 1 of that stretch. Blew leads in game 3 and 4 late, a sign of fatigue. Not saying the Argos were a good team this year at the end of the day, but who really knows if it had an impact? It is a possibility.

[RB957]

Yes, indeed - "Go Argos Go" from the 1968 Dal Richards album "CFL Songs." Listen to the whole album here - http://argonotes.com/CFLSongs/

here's the original recording - http://argonotes.com/CFLSongs/Argos.mp3
and the version we play now - http://argonotes.com/GAG.mp3
and a songsheet with the lyrics- http://argonotes.com/Songsheet.pdf


and for completeness since you mentioned it, here's "Fly Eagles Fly", one of the better NFL songs- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b97wo2Ekww


(The band has been playing Go Argos Go a dozen times a game for 20 years, before and after the game and after every score, but nobody can hear it and the team always seems to have other ideas about touchdown celebrations, but we'll keep trying.)

Thank you very much for sharing that. I have heard that song played at games before and never realized it was the Argos fight song. Love the Argonotes version. BTW, I think you guys are awesome and should be getting a higher profile at the games. Hopefully members of Argo management read this forum and give it a shot.

[R.J]

I like the idea of hiring someone like Rush or O'Leary to write for the Argos website. Copeland stated that the team would be the most accessible in North America (IIRC) and that there would be a lot more information for us; started off well IMO, but then went downhill pretty quickly.

[Argo57]

The only way the team can influence this is to hire its own reporter and publish his/her content on an Argo-owned site. More and more teams and leagues are doing this (including Blue Bombers) but it's not cheap as you have to pay the reporter and have an editor handle the content. Drew Edwards does a good job but he works for a newspaper that has (accurately IMO) determined that the Tiger-Cats have a large enough following in Hamilton to warrant daily reporting. In Toronto, Argos are at best the fourth-biggest team in town and the newspapers (other than the Sun) have not chosen have someone fully dedicated to Argo coverage. Nothing the organization can do will change that.

Mr Woods, send your resume to the Argonauts immediately!!!