Damien Cox - Argos v TFC

[doubleblue]

Yes, I do recall that. If that's the case, I would be more than glad to pay for his Internet. Would be well worth it!

1argoholic is alive and well on the CFL.ca site. From all his posts it would appear he has too much time on his hands. I think he goes under the name of 1873argo or something like that.

[R.J]

1argoholic is alive and well on the CFL.ca site. From all his posts it would appear he has too much time on his hands. I think he goes under the name of 1873argo or something like that.

Argonauts est.1873

Tbone is also posting there as Enterprise Captain.

[doubleblue]

Argonauts est.1873

Tbone is also posting there as Enterprise Captain.

I think I saw Area 51 on there too. ex-Double Blue Room deplore ables.

[Neely2005]

I was fuming when I first read this column. I have now calmed down, and read it a few more times. My take: Cox's conclusion that TFC has "overtaken" the Argos is really ridiculous. Earlier this season, they were barely being mentioned in the press. Quite rightly, now that they have had some success and actually won in the playoffs, there is no surprise that interest is building. It is true, that TFC has drawn larger crowds, but their total fan base has always been smaller, and the tv numbers have been abysmal. Also, i recall many times viewing TFC hilights and seeing many many empty seats. They have done a good job in the past couple of years recruiting some bigger name players, are playing well as a team, and are reaping the benefits. Good for them. Having said that, what Cox says about the Argos situation is not untrue. They mistakenly believed that BMO would be a panacea for all ills and it hasn't been. A perfect storm of issues coming together has made this season to be a disaster: lousy scheduling, overpriced tickets(?), poor on-field performance, Grey Cup ticket fiasco, some questionable management decisions etc. Let's be realistic. In the Toronto market, with the Leafs, Jays and Raptors as the big three, the Argos are never going to get that attention. As far as who has surpassed who for "4th place", I say who cares? If our average attendance was around 16K, then really the issue is finding another 8 - 9 K fans to fill the seats. That is not an impossible goal. And while Cox is true, that the CFL doesn't necessarily have the "marquee" players other leagues have, we still have great athletes who are also interesting, multi-dimensional people. Look at that article in the Star just this week about Akwasi Owusu-Ansah and his passion for art and outreach to community. Or the recent story about Chad Kackert singing songs on his guitar at an open-mic night at a local pub. These are people I could sit down and have a beer with. And they would let me. They are generally humble, grateful for the opportunities they have and very approachable. Can anyone see themselves even getting close to Kyle Lowery, Jose Bautista or Auston Matthews? Not a chance. As far as I am concerned the CFL is special. It is the only professional sport that unites all of Canada, and that is played on our terms. We need to celebrate that and its rich history, and try finding about ten thousand more loyal and proud Canadians to share our passion for this great game. And then we need to put a competitive team on the field and all will be well. After that, all those others, Damien Cox included, can go f*#k themselves.

Well said!

[paulwoods13]

I think I saw Area 51 on there too.

Not for weeks, not sorry to say.

[Will]

Not for weeks, not sorry to say.

I heard not since his brother was benched.

[R.J]

I think I saw Area 51 on there too. ex-Double Blue Room deplore ables.

He is there, but as per his usual when things he end up being wrong, the Argos suck, and his brother plays poorly: he disappears. Returns a few months after lol.

[Will]

He is there, but as per his usual when things he end up being wrong, the Argos suck, and his brother plays poorly: he disappears. Returns a few months after lol.

He was bragging quite a bit when the Argos were 4-2, and isn't his go-to to blame the rest of the d-line when things go south?

[R.J]

He was bragging quite a bit when the Argos were 4-2, and isn't his go-to to blame the rest of the d-line when things go south?

Or Chris Jones lol


IIRC A51 was touting Stubler and how awesome the veteran Argos dline was, then disappeared. Did the same thing when people starting calling him out on Riderfans, but when he was right about something, he'd pop back in after a few months for a toadaso. What's the old saying - "If you throw enough shit against a wall, some of it has gotta stick."

[Will]

Or Chris Jones lol


IIRC A51 was touting Stubler and how awesome the veteran Argos dline was, then disappeared. Did the same thing when people starting calling him out on Riderfans, but when he was right about something, he'd pop back in after a few months for a toadaso. What's the old saying - "If you throw enough shit against a wall, some of it has gotta stick."

I thought the d-line was going to be a strength this year (well the interior more than the DE's) and they were playing well up until the game against the Blue Bombers, but after that...SPLAT!

[R.J]

I thought the d-line was going to be a strength this year (well the interior more than the DE's) and they were playing well up until the game against the Blue Bombers, but after that...SPLAT!

Only signing I liked was Bulcke. I was hoping that Foley would regain his form, but it's two seasons in a row now that he's played poorly, time to cut bait IMO. I was expecting big things from Waud, and hoping to see more of Walker, but injuries lead to my disappointment. Laurent made Hall look better and if we signed Hickman from 2011 good deal, but he hasn't been the same since coming back from the NFL.

We need so many upgrades it's not even funny - QB, RB, OL, WR, DL, LB, DB's, the entire team! That's messed up IMO.

[Will]

Only signing I liked was Bulcke. I was hoping that Foley would regain his form, but it's two seasons in a row now that he's played poorly, time to cut bait IMO. I was expecting big things from Waud, and hoping to see more of Walker, but injuries lead to my disappointment. Laurent made Hall look better and if we signed Hickman from 2011 good deal, but he hasn't been the same since coming back from the NFL.

We need so many upgrades it's not even funny - QB, RB, OL, WR, DL, LB, DB's, the entire team! That's messed up IMO.

I was worried about Foley and Hickman lining up at the DE positions and having little depth behind them. I thought the Argos were solid at DT with Bulcke, Waud, Hall and that Munroe guy who ended up retiring. Bryan Hall might be a good indicator of the major problem in evaluating the DT position because of how chemistry with your fellow DT can make you look much better or much worse.

Yes, there are needs at every position group on the roster except for probably Lirim Hajrullahu.

[hugoagogo]

Damian Cox blocked me after I called him on something. No name calling, no insults, just a friendly reply.

Me as well. Even when you are civil and want to have a discussion on twitter, if you disagree with his viewpoint and give rational reasons why, he blocks you. He says stupid crap for the sake of getting noticed. Hack.

[Argo57]

Only signing I liked was Bulcke. I was hoping that Foley would regain his form, but it's two seasons in a row now that he's played poorly, time to cut bait IMO. I was expecting big things from Waud, and hoping to see more of Walker, but injuries lead to my disappointment. Laurent made Hall look better and if we signed Hickman from 2011 good deal, but he hasn't been the same since coming back from the NFL.

We need so many upgrades it's not even funny - QB, RB, OL, WR, DL, LB, DB's, the entire team! That's messed up IMO.

Valid points, really no better than an expansion team (minus the 1st round pick) at this time.

[R.J]

Valid points, really no better than an expansion team (minus the 1st round pick) at this time.

That should give us hope then, Ottawa went to the GC in year 2 lol.

[argonaut11xx]

Damien Cox is human gutterfilth IMO. An anti Canadian loser, etc, etc.

That said I did attend a TFC game back in June/16, and I also took my 3 nephews to the Argo home opener.

The crowd energy was at a much higher level at the soccer game, and that pissed me off.

So as much as cox is an idiot who hates the CFL, it kills me knowing that the soccer team has a far more energized fan base than the Argos have.

The fact he was comparing a playoff soccer game to a "worst in CFL" Argo team, I understand.
BUT.
The stupid soccer team had the Argofans beat in terms of enthusiasm in the june/july games that were poorly attended by BOTH fan bases.

(I am only comparing the fan enthusiasm, cause the soccer game was as boring as watching paint dry)

[Will]

That should give us hope then, Ottawa went to the GC in year 2 lol.

The Argonauts have gone from 4-14 to 15-3 (95-96) and 2-14 to 9-6-1 (81-82) in the past. The player personnel director will not have the luxury of a dispersal draft this year however.

[Argo57]

That should give us hope then, Ottawa went to the GC in year 2 lol.

Ottawa's management team and coaching staff has done a masterful job in building a competitive team in a relatively short period of time.
Maybe the Argos will hire a staff capable of the same?

[R.J]

Ottawa's management team and coaching staff has done a masterful job in building a competitive team in a relatively short period of time.
Maybe the Argos will hire a staff capable of the same?

You know how I feel about the matter.

[Ballstothewall]

This is the difference in how the 2 teams are covered. The very first ever playoff game for TFC in its entire history was played last week in front of an announced crowd of 21,000 well short of a sellout. Really meaning that 18,000 were in the seats. However this was never discussed in any of the media story's. It was reported as a very vocal crowd. Now, we all know if the Argos had a playoff game with announced crowd of 21,000 that would be the lead of any media report. A disappointing crowd of only 21,000 were in attendance, then we would also get that's" most of that crowd dressed as empty seats comment". We all recall the home opener in which the Argos fell 1800 short of a sellout and that was the story, not being the first Argo game played at BMO.. Interesting that MR Cox's also did not comment on the thousands of free tickets that we're given to Rogers employees for this last game either. If Bell did that for a Argo playoff game, you just know that would find its way into the story.