Yes it's True...I've Jumped Ship

[matchuk]

Ouch, jumping ship to Hamilton, eeeew...I could not do it, but understand the frustration leading to that decision.

This season has been a complete sh*t show, both on and off the field. For me, being a 14 year season ticket holder, I am more pissed off at the on field product before anything else. Attending every single game at BMO this season, I can count 1, maybe 2 that were entertaining to watch. The others, complete garbage. That I believe is the main reason for the fluttering fan base. I am tempted to not buy season tickets again because I cant justify spending $50+ a ticket + food/beer and parking for a night out, that I can't even enjoy. I knew going into BMO for the first season, there were going to be a lot of issues with a number of things (schedule, fan oriented events, etc) so I wasn`t expecting much. In fact, I was surprised with how well the Shipyard and Tailgate have gone. Did anyone really think moving to BMO this season would suddenly create the perfect franchise? I believe things will get better. The schedule will improve, now that they know not as much time/effort is needed to return the field to soccer specs. The team will bring back fan events. It is the on field product that loses me the most. Some people consider the CFL "Mickey Mouse" and it is hard not to agree with pathetic play like the Argos have showed.

On a side note, what do other season ticket holder fan bases do? Any sport? Does anyone know? I doubt the Leafs do anything special for fans, other than the nice printed tickets (like we have). Raptors? Jays? I doubt they are letting fans skate with the Leafs or play horse with Derozan or catch with Bautista.

[R.J]

On a side note, what do other season ticket holder fan bases do? Any sport? Does anyone know? I doubt the Leafs do anything special for fans, other than the nice printed tickets (like we have). Raptors? Jays? I doubt they are letting fans skate with the Leafs or play horse with Derozan or catch with Bautista.

Don't know about those teams, but the Toronto Rock do quite a bit.

[AngeloV]

Don't know about those teams, but the Toronto Rock do quite a bit.

But hasn't there attendance also taken a huge dip over the years despite this?

[R.J]

But hasn't there attendance also taken a huge dip over the years despite this?

Yes, it has. Sucks too because the Rock used to be the leader in attendance up until the mid 2000's.

[PullTogether73]

Yes, it has. Sucks too because the Rock used to be the leader in attendance up until the mid 2000's.

Guilty.

I attended Toronto Rock games for years. Attended 2 championships won at the A.C.C. by the Rock. Absolutely awesome experiences - similar to attending the 100th Grey Cup and watching the Argonauts win it!
Then, last year I attended my first junior hockey game. Mississauga Steelheads. I enjoyed it too much to not go again. If you have never gone to a junior hockey game, I strongly recommend it. (I attended a few Oshawa Generals games and a London Knights game as well last season. Great stuff!) And I pay only $20 to attend, with free parking.
Anyway, the Rock became a casualty of my new interest in junior hockey. My 4 Rock jerseys have been collecting dust ever since.

[AngeloV]

Guilty.

I attended Toronto Rock games for years. Attended 2 championships won at the A.C.C. by the Rock. Absolutely awesome experiences - similar to attending the 100th Grey Cup and watching the Argonauts win it!
Then, last year I attended my first junior hockey game. Mississauga Steelheads. I enjoyed it too much to not go again. If you have never gone to a junior hockey game, I strongly recommend it. (I attended a few Oshawa Generals games and a London Knights game as well last season. Great stuff!) And I pay only $20 to attend, with free parking.
Anyway, the Rock became a casualty of my new interest in junior hockey. My 4 Rock jerseys have been collecting dust ever since.

I went to a Rock game in the mid 90's at the Gardens. It just wasn't my thing as far as sports go, but I do admit the atmosphere was pretty good. Used to be a regular at Brampton Battalion games on Sunday afternoons...great tams with Cody Hodgson and Matt Duschesne. Great value at under $15. Sadly they didn't draw enough and moved to North Bay.

[matchuk]

Then, last year I attended my first junior hockey game. Mississauga Steelheads. I enjoyed it too much to not go again. If you have never gone to a junior hockey game, I strongly recommend it.

OHL hockey is amazing. I would watch an OHL game live over an NHL game any day, even if the ticket prices were the exact same.

[Neely2005]

On a side note, what do other season ticket holder fan bases do? Any sport? Does anyone know? I doubt the Leafs do anything special for fans, other than the nice printed tickets (like we have). Raptors? Jays? I doubt they are letting fans skate with the Leafs or play horse with Derozan or catch with Bautista.

From the other Thread:

A lot of people have been asking what other teams give their STHs as benefits (that we don't get), specifically, Hamilton. I am going to provide links to other teams STH benefits so that you can read for yourselves.

Hamilton - http://ticats.ca/tickets/#season-seat-holder-benefits

Montreal - http://en.montrealalouettes.com/seas...t-memberships/

Ottawa - http://www.ottawaredblacks.com/2016-...cket-benefits/

Winnipeg - http://www.bluebombers.com/season-ti...mber-benefits/

Edmonton - http://www.esks.com/the-perks/

Calgary - http://www.stampeders.com/seasontickets/

BC - http://www.bclions.com/benefits-2/

I couldn't find information for Saskatchewan but I suspect that is due to the fact that they have a wait list for their season tickets not because there aren't any benefits.

Now to compare those benefits to Toronto - http://www.argonauts.ca/2016-season-tickets/ where the "benefits" were a savings of up to 33% (for most this amounted to a free playoff ticket which didn't happen), first right to purchase 104th grey cup tickets and priority access to grey cup events.

With respect to Hamilton, I am not a season ticket holder but I do recall seeing/hearing about several STH events during the season that involved player meet & greets, etc.

Someone asked the benefits that are offered to other MLSE teams, so here are the links:

Toronto FC - http://seasonseats.torontofc.ca/new

Raptors - http://www.nba.com/raptors/1617-seas...ction-benefits

Leafs - couldn't find a link but guessing that is because there is a wait list

Marlies - http://www.marlies.ca/tickets/SeasonSeatsBenefits.asp

Raptors 905 - http://raptors905.dleague.nba.com/tickets-seasonseats/

All offer very similar benefits to what other CFL teams offer their STHs. Right or wrong I do feel jilted by the fact that all other CFL teams (with the exception of maybe Saskatchewan since I couldn't find their information) offer their STHs benefits while the Argos offer very little. If no other teams offered benefits then why should the Argos....and on a similar argument, if all other teams offer benefits, why can't the Argos?

Copeland also promised us that he was going to take care of his STHs THIS season. A promise that I don't see how anyone can argue that he fulfilled.

[Argo57]

Ouch, jumping ship to Hamilton, eeeew...I could not do it, but understand the frustration leading to that decision.

This season has been a complete sh*t show, both on and off the field. For me, being a 14 year season ticket holder, I am more pissed off at the on field product before anything else. Attending every single game at BMO this season, I can count 1, maybe 2 that were entertaining to watch. The others, complete garbage. That I believe is the main reason for the fluttering fan base. I am tempted to not buy season tickets again because I cant justify spending $50+ a ticket + food/beer and parking for a night out, that I can't even enjoy. I knew going into BMO for the first season, there were going to be a lot of issues with a number of things (schedule, fan oriented events, etc) so I wasn`t expecting much. In fact, I was surprised with how well the Shipyard and Tailgate have gone. Did anyone really think moving to BMO this season would suddenly create the perfect franchise? I believe things will get better. The schedule will improve, now that they know not as much time/effort is needed to return the field to soccer specs. The team will bring back fan events. It is the on field product that loses me the most. Some people consider the CFL "Mickey Mouse" and it is hard not to agree with pathetic play like the Argos have showed.

On a side note, what do other season ticket holder fan bases do? Any sport? Does anyone know? I doubt the Leafs do anything special for fans, other than the nice printed tickets (like we have). Raptors? Jays? I doubt they are letting fans skate with the Leafs or play horse with Derozan or catch with Bautista.

Irrelevant as to what the Leafs do for their ST holders IMO, they have largely presented a shitty product for the better part of 50 years and sell out most if not all of their games and clean up on merchandise sales.
Argos new ownership coming from the Leaf mindset learned quickly this season they don't have that luxury, they need a good team on the field and also scratch and claw to get fans in the seats at BMO.