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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Not going to defend the trade for Willy (it was an obvious desperation move for a team that was hosting the Grey Cup), but in all honesty, different expectations. Tate is brought in to be a back up. Willy was brought in to be the starter.

    Don't get the love for Tate these days. Looked GREAT in 2012. Has looked pretty bad in limited starts since.
    Good trade for both teams, Ottawa didn't give up much to acquire a serviceable backup for Harris and Calgary picks up a late pick for a guy who never was going to start for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Not going to defend the trade for Willy (it was an obvious desperation move for a team that was hosting the Grey Cup), but in all honesty, different expectations. Tate is brought in to be a back up. Willy was brought in to be the starter.

    Don't get the love for Tate these days. Looked GREAT in 2012. Has looked pretty bad in limited starts since.
    And Tate still looks better than Willy IMO, regardless of what the trades were.

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    Takes departure from Calgary could very well free up a roster spot for Mitchell Gale.

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    One perspective: Ott gets a solid, experienced backup and insurance policy in Tate, Calgary gets a somewhat experienced backup in Gale.

    Another perspective: Ott gets a guy considered toxic by teammates, who has barely played despite being in the league for eight years (averaged fewer than four attempted passes per game over that span). Calgary is pooched if BLM gets hurt, with just the inexperienced Gale and Buckley behind him.
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    Further perspective; Harris just turned away from an extension offer from Ottawa this week. It doesn't sound like there's an understanding of future worth here. Harris seems like he's as tough a negotiator as he is on the field, but Ott Man believes in strict money ball. Something to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Gonzo View Post
    Further perspective; Harris just turned away from an extension offer from Ottawa this week. It doesn't sound like there's an understanding of future worth here. Harris seems like he's as tough a negotiator as he is on the field, but Ott Man believes in strict money ball. Something to watch.
    Sounds like Harris is gambling on having his first post September success. I don't blame him. What good is an extension? If he struggles, he gets released and if he shows himself to be the real deal he gets his price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    One perspective: Ott gets a solid, experienced backup and insurance policy in Tate, Calgary gets a somewhat experienced backup in Gale.

    Another perspective: Ott gets a guy considered toxic by teammates, who has barely played despite being in the league for eight years (averaged fewer than four attempted passes per game over that span). Calgary is pooched if BLM gets hurt, with just the inexperienced Gale and Buckley behind him.

    Heard from a Stamps fan that Tate is not "toxic" to his team-mates but more just a flake & space-cadet ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilthethrill View Post
    Takes departure from Calgary could very well free up a roster spot for Mitchell Gale.
    Yup, gotta think that the Gale signing was a big factor in the Tate trade. That, money, and Dickenson also thinks highly of Buckley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    Another perspective: Ott gets a guy considered toxic by teammates, who has barely played despite being in the league for eight years (averaged fewer than four attempted passes per game over that span). Calgary is pooched if BLM gets hurt, with just the inexperienced Gale and Buckley behind him.
    Tate's extreme intensity on and off the field sometimes negatively affected his play and led to emotional outbursts against teammates that led to his unpopularity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowRogue View Post
    Yup, gotta think that the Gale signing was a big factor in the Tate trade. That, money, and Dickenson also thinks highly of Buckley.
    Article on 3down nation from the Calgary Herald speculates the fact that Tate is so happy to be a back-up may show a lack of drive to be anything more. I can't say I disagree. If he wanted to really play, he would have been seeking an opportunity to have been a starter elsewhere rather than just re-up to be the back up. Most back ups want to start. He seems to be an exception to this.
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    Recent signings are having a rather consistent thread of disastrous injury history . Hunter hasn't play really played for last three years because of injuries. Murray has missed 15 games over the past two years, Fuller 31 games over the past three years and Sears 36 games over the past three years. Whitaker gained over 1000 yards last year and only missed 3 games over the past two years but wasn't offered a contract by the team--strange!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shatto View Post
    Recent signings are having a rather consistent thread of disastrous injury history . Hunter hasn't play really played for last three years because of injuries. Murray has missed 15 games over the past two years, Fuller 31 games over the past three years and Sears 36 games over the past three years. Whitaker gained over 1000 yards last year and only missed 3 games over the past two years but wasn't offered a contract by the team--strange!
    Keep in mind that Whitaker missed a boatload of games in the two or three seasons he played prior to coming to Toronto.
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    If Whitaker doesn't make it to someone's camp, he'd be an excellent mid-season injury replacement.

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    It is correct that Whitaker has missed games in the past through injuries but in the last six seasons he has only missed 29 games as a result of injuries. That is just under 5 games a season. That is a far cry from Hunter, who has basically missed all of the last three seasons. Hopefully Hunter can return to full health and realize his obvious huge potential as a RB for the Argos. Nevertheless it is still surprising that Zimmerman has decided not to extend a contract offer to Whitaker, who had a very productive season last year. Perhaps even more surprising is lack of news that Zimmerman has attempted to sign Greenwood, who is a definite ratio changer.

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