Giovinco blaming the Argos for TFC's woes

[AngeloV]

They did ask. It's in the original post. Jozy Alitore also was asked about the field.




How is this any different than "You know, i've watched football at Ralph Wilson and 'insert NFL stadium here'. Football, the CFL version is sloppy". You're making the same arguments about MLS that CFL fans have heard their whole lives.



http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/...-grey-cup-play

Just checked all 5 of your posts here. Every one TFC/MLS related (and this your first since 2012). Serious question...why did you post now? Do you have some sort of radar detector telling you when you have to go somewhere and defend TFC?

[Will]

I thought that TFC players had been doing a good job of avoiding embroiling themselves in the "Argos @ BMO" controversy...that is until now...

[Mightygoose]

I haven't heard anything from a player on the field yet. Hopefully this is only a view by a select few like Giovinco and Altidore.

Otherwise, this may not be the end of this as I understand they're both signed for 3 more seasons. This could affect future high priced DPs coming to Toronto and the Argos will constantly be blamed.

Funny thing is the Jays had issues signing and keeping free agents for years with the artificial surface being the cause. They wanted to boot the Argos out for that reason, yet the Jays are still on turf and the Argos are on grass...Can't win here it seems.

[Scooter McCray]

Didn't the Argos bend over backwards to accommodate the TFC schedule by only playing within certain time frames of when TFC played? Not to mention the Argos never once played on a damp field. Their pitch was pristine. I really want to hear someone from MLSE respond to this and defend their ground crew and the Argos.

[Argo57]

Waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!
Congrats Seattle!!!

[paulwoods13]

This could affect future high priced DPs coming to Toronto and the Argos will constantly be blamed.

I guess those high-priced DPs could go to Montreal for playoff games on artificial turf with sunken patches around the old baseball bases. Or to New York to play in Yankee Stadium on a field much smaller than regulation with dirt around the infield.

[ArgoGabe22]

I would imagine the Montreal game right after the GC, would've had the most poorest pitch conditions of the season and I heard crickets. I heard crickets all season but after they lose, it becomes an issue? Give me a break.

[jerrym]

Blaming others for your problems almost never leads to a solution.

[ArgoZ]

I guess those high-priced DPs could go to Montreal for playoff games on artificial turf with sunken patches around the old baseball bases. Or to New York to play in Yankee Stadium on a field much smaller than regulation with dirt around the infield.

Clever. They could also play on the many artificial turf fields all around the MLS, something many world class players and World Cups refuse to do. Seba cramped up due to overexertion in cold weather, simple as that. If he expects us to believe that was caused by the turf, he is a moron. What a baby. I have lost a lot of admiration for the Italian striker. I think his strike partner Altidore and himself need to work on their finishing, rather than working on excuses why they couldn't find the back of the net.

[R.J]

There are some very good artificial surfaces out there nowadays, so hopefully MLSE finally just decides to go with the cheaper option. It seems as though the perception of the old carpets is behind soccer people's current view of turf.

[R.J]

LMAO, Even soccer coaches flop

[Skinny G]

So wait... he blames field conditions (with the Argos playing on it) that impacted him over the last few games of the year... lets see these dates:

- October 15: Last Argos Home Game
- October 23: TFC wins vs Chicago - No Complaints
- October 26: TFC wins vs Philly - No Complaints
- October 30: TFC wins vs NYCFC (Only 4 days after previous game) - No Complaints
- November 27: Grey Cup
- November 30: TFC wins vs Mtl - No Complaints
- December 10: TFC loses... whining begins....

8 days between the last Argos game and the next TFC game...2 soccer playoff games with no football happening between the next week without issue... 3 days between the Grey Cup and the 2nd leg of the Eastern Final, but no issue as they won big... another 10 days between games to the MLS cup...YA...SURE... the Argos caused all the pitch problems to happen and his cramping to occur at the end of the year...couldn't be his body just reacting wear and tear eh??

[Neely2005]

So wait... he blames field conditions (with the Argos playing on it) that impacted him over the last few games of the year... lets see these dates:

- October 15: Last Argos Home Game
- October 23: TFC wins vs Chicago - No Complaints
- October 26: TFC wins vs Philly - No Complaints
- October 30: TFC wins vs NYCFC (Only 4 days after previous game) - No Complaints
- November 27: Grey Cup
- November 30: TFC wins vs Mtl - No Complaints
- December 10: TFC loses... whining begins....

8 days between the last Argos game and the next TFC game...2 soccer playoff games with no football happening between the next week without issue... 3 days between the Grey Cup and the 2nd leg of the Eastern Final, but no issue as they won big... another 10 days between games to the MLS cup...YA...SURE... the Argos caused all the pitch problems to happen and his cramping to occur at the end of the year...couldn't be his body just reacting wear and tear eh??

Personally I think that playing soccer outdoors in December in Canada might not be the best idea.

[Skinny G]

Personally I think that playing soccer outdoors in December in Canada might not be the best idea.

I agree, and he/TFC (and all the other East Coast teams) should take that up with the MLS if they are concerned with playing games in extremely cold and potentially snowy weather. His body struggled to deal with the colder weather and/or beating he may have taken through the year. Saying his cramping and lackluster play at the end of the year is all on him... not the pitch... not the Argos.

[Stevoman]

Well, this is definitely most offensive to the grounds people who have done a fantastic job this season. For a guy who makes more money than all of the Argos players combined, one would hope he could be man enough to admit that he pulled himself out of the game and therefore let his own team down by not being available for penalty kicks and that blaming the Argos just makes him look even worse. Foley and Black said what needed to be said.

[ArgoRavi]

Personally I think that playing soccer outdoors in December in Canada might not be the best idea.

That is putting it kindly. There is no reason why the MLS season has to be so long and extend well into December.

[argolio]

Good luck to him ever getting back into the Italian national team.

[Bleeds Double Blue]

Personally I think that playing soccer outdoors in December in Canada might not be the best idea.

Maybe they could have had a word with our friends at the Rogers Center.

[Kenners]

Matt Black and Foley are defending the team and cfl on Twitter.

[jojoheath]

What a baby, lost all respect for that little wimp. Has to play in MLS because he cant play in any of the other REAL Leagues!!