Giovinco blaming the Argos for TFC's woes

[Mightygoose]

Mods, if you want to move this, please do.

http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/video/giovi...t-home~1014017

After the field held up well between both teams and multiple events.

How is it Giovinco's place to blame the Argos for the field conditions despite coming off their best season including going 3 - 1 during the playoffs on home field.

I was really hoping the rift between the two fan bases can be set aside now but comments like this will just keep it going.

[Will]

Or maybe playing soccer on a grass field in November-December could be the issue?

[dmont]

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Funny how it never seems to be a problem for the opposing team....... but that's none of my business.....

[Neely2005]

I actually think that it's TFC's fault that the Argos sucked this year. TFC obviously ruined our field.

[Antwon]

Funny how he didn't cry about the field after they won the playoff game against Montreal!!!
Maybe TFC ripped the field up so bad in that game that it was impossible for it to return to pristine condition in NOVEMBER!!!!!

[Mulder]

I wonder how the Grounds Crew feels about being thrown under the bus?

I also wonder what MLSE thinks about investing all that money now?

How are cramps related to the field condition anyways?

[Downtownfan]

this is kinda just too stupid for words. they had a great season, the field looked fine, they did really well in the playoffs, they did not complain about the fiasco in Montreal, and yet it is the Argos to blame? Maybe they just lost a crappy game in a crappy way, and they should leave it at that.

[Antwon]

Also when's the last time an NHL'er blamed the ice for a game lost??!!??!! NEVER because they are men!
It's a know fact that most NHL arenas have poor ice at various times of the year. Converting for hockey, basketball, concerts etc. And especially in the playoffs due to the warmer weather. Talk about a cry baby!

[ArgoGabe22]

Giovinco probably got cramps for the following reasons: overplayed (not enough rest) throughout the season or the delay between games was far too long. I think they went 2 weeks without a game.

[PullTogether73]

There are no words.
SMH.

[AngeloV]

Well from what I saw, he was horrible on Saturday, so I guess it has to be someone's fault other than his own. He needs to call the WGR550 whinerline.

[gilthethrill]

Well that's settles it!!! The only thing to do now is for TFC to move out of BMO Field!

[Ron]

Smart PR moves. Blame the other team at the field and their fans will eat it up. Takes away any personal responsibility for their own play. Let's not bother with the groundskeepers publicly stating that the field is far more ripped up after a soccer game than any football game.

[Downtownfan]

you know, the more I think about this, the stupider it becomes. Didn't any of our so called "journalists" at this press conference ask about the magical impact of the fabled "pitch" on the rest of the team? Was it localized only to one player? Should Argos players be concerned next year about cramping up because of the field? This is the kind of moronic statement that will stand and be eaten up by some as "proof" of the problems of a shared field, instead of being called out for what it is, complete and unmitigated bullshit designed to deflect away from a crappy game and a crappy result. What a fucking baby.

You know, I was once a very big soccer fan: saw my first Blizzard game back in 78 as a kid, and have seen Arsenal at Highbury, and Inter at San Siro. When TFC first came on the scene, I was pretty keen on the team, but the complete assholeness of their then management (Peddie et al) towards the Argos, and the continued assholeness of so many of their "supporters" towards the Argos have turned me off so badly. Soccer itself, the MLS version, is pretty sloppy stuff (the MLS final, which I did not watch, thankfully, makes the point), and it doesn't help when the high priced talent moans about the field. What a turn off.

[mchesher03]

oh captain "no show" in the playoffs comes across as looking pretty stupid here.

airing this complaint days after the final game and taking into account there's been exactly 1 football game (grey cup) between october 15 and now makes him just look silly and looking for excuses.

always a new excuse here with TFC.

[mchesher03]

Well from what I saw, he was horrible on Saturday, so I guess it has to be someone's fault other than his own. He needs to call the WGR550 whinerline.

he was basically non-existant in the parts of the game I watched. My only takeaways were him whining to the ref every time a Seattle player defended him. Full disclosure I played soccer growing up and loved playing against the type of player who wines that much, you know they're rattled...

[R.J]

[bender]

you know, the more I think about this, the stupider it becomes. Didn't any of our so called "journalists" at this press conference ask about the magical impact of the fabled "pitch" on the rest of the team? Was it localized only to one player?

They did ask. It's in the original post. Jozy Alitore also was asked about the field.

You know, I was once a very big soccer fan: saw my first Blizzard game back in 78 as a kid, and have seen Arsenal at Highbury, and Inter at San Siro. When TFC first came on the scene, I was pretty keen on the team, but the complete assholeness of their then management (Peddie et al) towards the Argos, and the continued assholeness of so many of their "supporters" towards the Argos have turned me off so badly. Soccer itself, the MLS version, is pretty sloppy stuff (the MLS final, which I did not watch, thankfully, makes the point),

How is this any different than "You know, i've watched football at Ralph Wilson and 'insert NFL stadium here'. Football, the CFL version is sloppy". You're making the same arguments about MLS that CFL fans have heard their whole lives.

and it doesn't help when the high priced talent moans about the field. What a turn off.

http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/...-grey-cup-play

[Downtownfan]

Did Jozy say the pitch caused him cramps too?

My point is that I would probably be much more of a TFC fan if there was not such a clear animus towards the Argos from many TFC fans. CFL and NFL are two different games; I have been to many NFL games (including Bills games), and NCAA games, and CIS games, etc., and can make a judgment on the quality of different versions of football, thank you.

As Dave Dickenson said, "Who knows if that can be resolved? The grass stops at a certain yard line and the one end zone is just regular. When you have the two different surfaces that’s tough on guys with their cleats... But I love the stadium. I think it’s a great size. I like grass, I can’t believe how green it is out there.” Or, as Rick Campbell said when it comes to the field, "But that’s part of the deal and we won’t make a big focus on that." Not sure where I see someone blaming the field for their performance, or claiming that it caused injury.

[Mulder]

They did ask. It's in the original post. Jozy Alitore also was asked about the field.




How is this any different than "You know, i've watched football at Ralph Wilson and 'insert NFL stadium here'. Football, the CFL version is sloppy". You're making the same arguments about MLS that CFL fans have heard their whole lives.



http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/...-grey-cup-play

The obvious solution to this is to switch it all to field turf. Many newer studies coming out saying it's safer than grass. Can especially stop cramps.