Giovinco blaming the Argos for TFC's woes

[LLB997]

the nicest "pitch" in the mls and he still complains. the guys makes 7 million a season and his teammates make 70 grand a season. what a cremepuff this guy is.

[Will]

What a baby, lost all respect for that little wimp. Has to play in MLS because he cant play in any of the other REAL Leagues!!

Which (and this is going to be an unpopular opinion) is the exact same thing the CFL haters would say about Foley and Black.

[LLB997]

Which (and this is going to be an unpopular opinion) is the exact same thing the CFL haters would say about Foley and Black.

Foley and Black are not cited as the top CFLers as Giovinco is for MLS. That said... The NFL always gives CFL'ers a Look , but Italy's coach has just said that Giovinco will not get an invite to team Italy because "MLS doesn't count". Italy's coach actually said that playing in and dominating the MLS makes him mentally weak . LOL

[argotom]

Foley and Black are not cited as the top CFLers as Giovinco is for MLS. That said... The NFL always gives CFL'ers a Look , but Italy's coach has just said that Giovinco will not get an invite to team Italy because "MLS doesn't count". Italy's coach actually said that playing in and dominating the MLS makes him mentally weak . LOL

The MLS is horrible quality 5th Division or worse, so let's not compare it to real soccer played in Europe and the rest of the world.

[paulwoods13]

There are some very good artificial surfaces out there nowadays, so hopefully MLSE finally just decides to go with the cheaper option.

Now I'm going to emulate TFC fans and demand that BMO stick with real grass. It is one of the aspects I like most about our move there.

[AngeloV]

Now I'm going to emulate TFC fans and demand that BMO stick with real grass. It is one of the aspects I like most about our move there.

TBH Paul, I like real grass too. But I don't like players running from real grass to turf as is the case in the end zones at BMO. I would prefer 1 or the other. It is going to be a factor on a key play at some point in a football game. When the Argos played the Stamps, Kenny Shaw scored a TD on a quick in route over the goal line in which the Stamps corner fell when he went to make his break. It obviously wasn't a key point in that game of season, but it could have been. The 2 different surfaces require different footwear.

[Neely2005]

TBH Paul, I like real grass too. But I don't like players running from real grass to turf as is the case in the end zones at BMO. I would prefer 1 or the other. It is going to be a factor on a key play at some point in a football game. When the Argos played the Stamps, Kenny Shaw scored a TD on a quick in route over the goal line in which the Stamps corner fell when he went to make his break. It obviously wasn't a key point in that game of season, but it could have been. The 2 different surfaces require different footwear.

Isn't only the North end zone turf?

[R.J]

Isn't only the North end zone turf?

North Endzone is all turf, but the South is half turf and half grass.

[AngeloV]

North Endzone is all turf, but the South is half turf and half grass.

Thanks.

[bender]

The north end is the side where the permanent seating was removed to extend the field for football. The endzone is all turf there.

The south end usually has a couple feet of concrete between the field and the wall during soccer and it's mainly used as a walkway for stadium personnel. For Argos, they cover the remaining concrete with turf and run it right up to the wall.

[Neely2005]

The north end is the side where the permanent seating was removed to extend the field for football. The endzone is all turf there.

The south end usually has a couple feet of concrete between the field and the wall during soccer and it's mainly used as a walkway for stadium personnel. For Argos, they cover the remaining concrete with turf and run it right up to the wall.

Thanks.

[Will]

The north end is the side where the permanent seating was removed to extend the field for football. The endzone is all turf there.

The south end usually has a couple feet of concrete between the field and the wall during soccer and it's mainly used as a walkway for stadium personnel. For Argos, they cover the remaining concrete with turf and run it right up to the wall.

I think it was that way for soccer in the south end even before the Argos moved in right?

[bender]

I think it was that way for soccer in the south end even before the Argos moved in right?

Nothings changed in the south end. They simply pull the couple feet of turf and remove all the padding and you never really know it was there to begin with.

[Scooter McCray]

the nicest "pitch" in the mls and he still complains. the guys makes 7 million a season and his teammates make 70 grand a season. what a cremepuff this guy is.

He makes $7M? Well he's a bloody big deal then. No wonder he lead his team through the playoffs and took his team to the promised land in the bloody shootout.

[ArgoRavi]

Matt Black and Foley are defending the team and cfl on Twitter.

And a couple of TFC fans were taking shots at Black especially because he and other CFLers have to work other jobs in the off-season. Oh, what a crime that is!

[DoubleBlue_Red]

the nicest "pitch" in the mls and he still complains. the guys makes 7 million a season and his teammates make 70 grand a season. what a cremepuff this guy is.

Bradley and Altidore both make about 6m each as well. Other players such as Cheyrou are on 300k contracts. MLSE is paying these guys salary akin to a mid range Premier League club. The Argos will not win this turf war, they would be best playing at a facility built for Canadian football i.e. university.

[Argocister]

Bradley and Altidore both make about 6m each as well. Other players such as Cheyrou are on 300k contracts. MLSE is paying these guys salary akin to a mid range Premier League club. The Argos will not win this turf war, they would be best playing at a facility built for Canadian football i.e. university.

Beg to differ with you on this one .
At the present there is no turf war .... Why should there be one. There are a group of MLS teams that share their field. Toronto should be no different.
It is what it is .... Argos are there.

Salaries to the players have no bearing on who inhabits the city owned field.

[R.J]

Bradley and Altidore both make about 6m each as well. Other players such as Cheyrou are on 300k contracts. MLSE is paying these guys salary akin to a mid range Premier League club. The Argos will not win this turf war, they would be best playing at a facility built for Canadian football i.e. university.

It's cute that TFC fans think they can win anything.

[LLB997]

Bradley and Altidore both make about 6m each as well. Other players such as Cheyrou are on 300k contracts. MLSE is paying these guys salary akin to a mid range Premier League club. The Argos will not win this turf war, they would be best playing at a facility built for Canadian football i.e. university.

3 players on TFC make up over 80 percent of the salary cap for the club. The fact you mention the 3rd to 4th top salaries dropping by 5.7 million dollars says it all. Nothing to win, Nothing will change. Actually i take that back, they may remove the grass in the end all due to this so TFC will be the big loser as CFL teams are used to fake grass.

[Scooter McCray]

How do the economics of TFC support these outrageous salaries? Why does MLSE fund this with no hope of ever recouping or ever breaking even?