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    If Argos go from Ray to Manziel it's a desperate attempt to sell tickets.
    Ray is an HOF QB, he has a few seasons left, he's done nothing to be shown the door.
    Manziel is worth a shot for a team needing a QB. He will create buzz, but if he succeeds and shows he's grown from his character issues, the NFL will come calling again. It'll be like Ricky Williams all over again.
    That said I'd be tuning in to see how he plays out, just don't want to see him on our sideline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    This is where I disagree. I don't think signing Manziel would result in a major spike in ticket sales. A minor one, yes, but not a major one.
    I was being a little facetious about the sales going through the roof, but there are good reasons to believe Manziel would spike sales a lot more than Ricky Williams did.

    First, there's a bunch of casual sports fans who are curious about the Argos BMO "experience", in particular the tailgating, but casual fans don't want to buy tickets for a losing team. These people need some kind of on-field reason to buy Argos tickets, and, in the absence of a big winning season, Johnny would certainly provide that. By way of comparison, literally nobody was curious about the Argos Skydome "experience" in 2006.

    Secondly, Ricky Williams was entering the last third of his career when he came here. Everybody knew what he could do on the field and what to expect. On the other hand, nobody has seen Johnny play pro very much, and there's a huge pent-up demand across the continent -- which includes Toronto -- to see more of what this guy can do on the field.

    Furthermore, I would argue that Johnny Football is a more famous celebrity today than Ricky Williams was in 06. Manziel is a huge Twitter celeb, and Twitter was just getting off the ground back then.

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    Ricky Williams wasn't really a good fit for the Argo offense back then. The O Line was all about pass protection and not great at run blocking. Something like they have now. The offensive coordinator at the time (Kent Austin) apparently didn't much like the idea of Ricky being brought in which eventually resulted in his dismissal.

    Is this being replayed in Hamilton with Johnny Manziel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    Ricky Williams wasn't really a good fit for the Argo offense back then. The O Line was all about pass protection and not great at run blocking. Something like they have now. The offensive coordinator at the time (Kent Austin) apparently didn't much like the idea of Ricky being brought in which eventually resulted in his dismissal.

    Is this being replayed in Hamilton with Johnny Manziel?
    Poor Ricky... running behind arguably the worst O Line in the history of football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo View Post
    Poor Ricky... running behind arguably the worst O Line in the history of football.
    I would disagree with this. After Adam Rita replaced Kent Austin as offensive coordinator, the running game worked a lot better as the offence was somewhat more balanced.
    Chad Kelly + Dan Adeboboye + David Ungerer + Damonte Coxie + DaVaris Daniels + Dejon Brissett = Unstoppable Force

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    I would disagree with this. After Adam Rita replaced Kent Austin as offensive coordinator, the running game worked a lot better as the offence was somewhat more balanced.
    Yes, there was also the Austin chilling effect upon the run game including, no doubt, lack of practice. IIRC, few if any Argos fans were sorry to see Austin depart.

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