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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowRogue View Post
    At their peaks, I'd give Ray the edge, even though he never threw for 6,000, but Calvillo was still playing at a high level into his mid to late 30's, where as Ray is nowhere near the player he was in until 2014.

    Ray's no longer an elite QB IMO. Jennings, Reilly, Mitchell, Collaros, and Harris are all QB's I'd take over Ray.

    You might be right, but though I'm tempted, I'm not 100% down with writing off Ricky as a very good CFL QB still. The health of his passing arm is the big issue IMO - if it's even 85% of what it once was, that's easily good enough; his accuracy & smarts could still do lots in a sharp Trestman passing offence = could be better than what Calvillo did late in his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    You might be right, but though I'm tempted, I'm not 100% down with writing off Ricky as a very good CFL QB still. The health of his passing arm is the big issue IMO - if it's even 85% of what it once was, that's easily good enough; his accuracy & smarts could still do lots in a sharp Trestman passing offence = could be better than what Calvillo did late in his career.
    75% accuracy in 2016, and 15/6 TD/INT ratio. Clearly he can still hit his receivers with catchable passes. Whether he can sling it downfield well enough is TBD, but I think he can probably do it well enough to be effective in a Trestman offence.
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    Given what I’m seeing, appears that ricky ray’s future is no longer a “wait and see” – trestman is a fan, Ricky is the undisputed starter and let’s see where this goes!

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