Ricky Ray's Future with Argos A Wait and See Game

[jerrym]

#Argos $$& commitment? 1 yr left on Ricky Ray heavily incentive-based deal. Jim Barker restructed Drew Willy to be incentive-based too #CFL

— Matthew Scianitti (@TSNScianitti) February 14, 2017

#CFL sources say no discussions between #Argos & Ricky Ray about his future. Wait&see approach for team&QB. New GM&HC will determine a lot

— Matthew Scianitti (@TSNScianitti) February 14, 2017

[Jon Gonzo]

Ricky Ray's agent says he is fully healthy & plans to play in 2017. Still under contract w/ #Argos. #CFL via @FarhanLaljiTSN

— CFL News (@CFL_News) February 15, 2017

[mchesher03]

well let's hope he does play then - I'd take an older ricky ray over willy no question. now to figure out RB, WR's, etc. some nice pieces on the defensive end in place in Lemon and Veneble imo

[AngeloV]

well let's hope he does play then - I'd take an older ricky ray over willy no question. now to figure out RB, WR's, etc. some nice pieces on the defensive end in place in Lemon and Veneble imo

Marshall Ferguson said on air yesterday that Matthew Scianitti was told the Argos plan to go with Coombs at RB. Of course, depending on coach and GM moves, that can change.

[Jon Gonzo]

Marshall Ferguson said on air yesterday that Matthew Scianitti was told the Argos plan to go with Coombs at RB. Of course, depending on coach and GM moves, that can change.

If that's the case, an American to back him up will be called for. Curtis Steele anyone? Trevon Van, Shakir Bell, Anthony Allen, Brandon Rutley? Someone who is good on the return team would be preferable. He hasn't proven he is durable enough. Insurance necessary.

[AngeloV]

If that's the case, an American to back him up will be called for. Curtis Steele anyone? Trevon Van, Shakir Bell, Anthony Allen, Brandon Rutley? Someone who is good on the return team would be preferable. He hasn't proven he is durable enough. Insurance necessary.

Not necessarily. Matt Walter is out there, as is Anthony Woodson.

Seems very backwards to load up on players, when you have no idea of the coach or his philosophies. Add that to the fact that Zimmerman is hardly qualified to find these players.

Its going to be a gong show. (Think Tracey Ham's time with the Argo's)

Unless of course Tommy Condell is going to be the coach, and the line about a GM deciding on who the coach will be is just BS. Wouldn't surprise me if they are specifically looking for a GM that will work with Condell.

[Antwon]

Unless of course Tommy Condell is going to be the coach, and the line about a GM deciding on who the coach will be is just BS. Wouldn't surprise me if they are specifically looking for a GM that will work with Condell.

At this point I hope Condell is the HC. But they needed to declare that a week ago!!!
This season is heading for a Huard/Andrus type year.
I'm sure Copeland will be at practice with a cooler of popcicles for the players!!!

[jerrym]

Marshall Ferguson said on air yesterday that Matthew Scianitti was told the Argos plan to go with Coombs at RB. Of course, depending on coach and GM moves, that can change.

Not necessarily. Matt Walter is out there, as is Anthony Woodson.

Coomb has shown some ability to catch the ball on short passes but has shown no ability to break tackles or elusiveness. I also wonder, considering his size, whether he can survive the pounding if he is to be used as a RB. Nor have I seen any sign that he could be a blocking back, an important skill in a passing offence.
If they do decide to go with him, they may well go with a National backup RB, such as Walter or Woodson, as some other teams have done. Otherwise you are using up an International in a backup role rather than as one of 17 starters.

[argonaut11xx]

Marshall Ferguson said on air yesterday that Matthew Scianitti was told the Argos plan to go with Coombs at RB. Of course, depending on coach and GM moves, that can change.

Seems very backwards to load up on players, when you have no idea of the coach or his philosophies. Add that to the fact that Zimmerman is hardly qualified to find these players.

Its going to be a gong show. (Think Tracey Ham's time with the Argo's)

[Jon Gonzo]

Seems very backwards to load up on players, when you have no idea of the coach or his philosophies. Add that to the fact that Zimmerman is hardly qualified to find these players.

Its going to be a gong show. (Think Tracey Ham's time with the Argo's)

The Huardian Dark Ages, he we come. Load up on batteries, and get canned goods and gas for the generator.

[Shirley]

well let's hope he does play then - I'd take an older ricky ray over willy no question. now to figure out RB, WR's, etc. some nice pieces on the defensive end in place in Lemon and Veneble imo

I am with you on Ray, I wish we had kept Dan Lef btw. My WR wish list includes Gurley

[jerrym]

I am with you on Ray, I wish we had kept Dan Lef btw. My WR wish list includes Gurley

Welcome on board the somewhat leaky ship Argo. I'm afraid I have to agree with Wobbler on this.

[Neely2005]

Right now he's by far the best QB on our roster.

[argonaut11xx]

Right now he's by far the best QB on our roster.

What?? your not on the Jeff Matthews bandwagon???

(I'm now removing my tongue that was firmly implanted in my cheek)

[doubleblue]

Right now he's by far the best QB on our roster.

Ricky Ray even with some zip gone on his throws is still the best QB on the roster IMO. Just need to give him the right players to work with.

[R.J]

Ricky Ray even with some zip gone on his throws is still the best QB on the roster IMO.

That's not saying much.

[OV Argo]

That's not saying much.

Yet Trestman with an aging Calvillo got the Als to some success/GCs? - who's the better QB Ray or Calvillo? - if you pick the latter, then no need to carry on this discussion.

[Rich]

Yet Trestman with an aging Calvillo got the Als to some success/GCs? - who's the better QB Ray or Calvillo? - if you pick the latter, then no need to carry on this discussion.

I'll agree that Ricky was a better QB in his prime than Calvillo. But Calvillo was a better, more durable athlete, allowing him to maintain a high level through his late 30s. There were times last year when Ricky looked like Betty White out there. Good O-Line or not, Ricky has zero escapability any more, he's just gonna get more beat up if he plays this year.

[R.J]

Yet Trestman with an aging Calvillo got the Als to some success/GCs? - who's the better QB Ray or Calvillo? - if you pick the latter, then no need to carry on this discussion.

At their peaks, I'd give Ray the edge, even though he never threw for 6,000, but Calvillo was still playing at a high level into his mid to late 30's, where as Ray is nowhere near the player he was in until 2014.

Ray's no longer an elite QB IMO. Jennings, Reilly, Mitchell, Collaros, and Harris are all QB's I'd take over Ray.

[argotom]

Who needs a coach or GM?
Maybe Ricky will be the playing HC/OC.
With Condell as the remaining staff.
While we are at it in a further cost cutting measure, the team can hold some open practices/workouts at various correctional institutions in North America.
Fill out the team like in the Longest Yard.
Burt Reynolds at nearly 80 years old can be the backup QB.