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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    I like Buckley - good QB talent and was very impressive last ex.game for the Stumps - we shall see if he really wins the #2 job there.

    However - anybody who believes that the only reason he is there with the Stamps is just because of "talent" - like he is/was the clear cut best CIS QB of the past decade or so and that's why he is getting a CFL shot, are seriously deluded IMO. Good for the Stamps for giving him a shot and he was playing right in there own backyard for them to scout, but sorry, there have been several other CIS QBs with as good or better QB skills than Buckley in the past few years, let alone decades, and basically none of them have been given a real CFL TC shot to compete for a job.

    When several CFL teams yearly start giving top notch Canadian QB talent real TCs shots to compete - I'll believe there has been some real change on this file. Not happening - lately, now or doubtful in the forseeable future. Same old GOB CFL. ;o)
    So why would he be named the backup if not for his talent? there is no advantage or incentive to have a Canadian, he doesn't count against the ratio.
    CFL teams will start giving "top notch" Canadian QB talent a real shot if they can find "top notch" Canadian QBs.
    CIS QBs may shine in the CIS but they don't face the talent that an NCAA QB has to face, the bigger stronger defences, faster strong pass rushes, longer season more games and longer practice schedules, NCAA QBs are better coached and it's a full time job when you get an NCAA scholarship.
    CIS QBs are usually in shock when they get to a CFL training camp and they are facing the bigger, faster, stronger ex-NFL or ex NCAA defences, they have never had to face players of that quality.
    Sorry but CIS QBs just don't match up against the superior NCAA and ex-NFL QBs. I think it's great that Buckley has overcome the adversity and earned a backup in the CFL.
    Buckley proves the point you are trying to make that the CFL does give "top notch" QB talent a real shot. Too bad there are not more "top notch" Canadians out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayahre View Post
    So why would he be named the backup if not for his talent? there is no advantage or incentive to have a Canadian, he doesn't count against the ratio.
    CFL teams will start giving "top notch" Canadian QB talent a real shot if they can find "top notch" Canadian QBs.
    CIS QBs may shine in the CIS but they don't face the talent that an NCAA QB has to face, the bigger stronger defences, faster strong pass rushes, longer season more games and longer practice schedules, NCAA QBs are better coached and it's a full time job when you get an NCAA scholarship.
    CIS QBs are usually in shock when they get to a CFL training camp and they are facing the bigger, faster, stronger ex-NFL or ex NCAA defences, they have never had to face players of that quality.
    Sorry but CIS QBs just don't match up against the superior NCAA and ex-NFL QBs. I think it's great that Buckley has overcome the adversity and earned a backup in the CFL.
    Buckley proves the point you are trying to make that the CFL does give "top notch" QB talent a real shot. Too bad there are not more "top notch" Canadians out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    I think I'll stay out of this one. The new me.
    Haha, Good one AngeloV!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayahre View Post
    So why would he be named the backup if not for his talent? there is no advantage or incentive to have a Canadian, he doesn't count against the ratio.
    CFL teams will start giving "top notch" Canadian QB talent a real shot if they can find "top notch" Canadian QBs.
    CIS QBs may shine in the CIS but they don't face the talent that an NCAA QB has to face, the bigger stronger defences, faster strong pass rushes, longer season more games and longer practice schedules, NCAA QBs are better coached and it's a full time job when you get an NCAA scholarship.
    CIS QBs are usually in shock when they get to a CFL training camp and they are facing the bigger, faster, stronger ex-NFL or ex NCAA defences, they have never had to face players of that quality.
    Sorry but CIS QBs just don't match up against the superior NCAA and ex-NFL QBs. I think it's great that Buckley has overcome the adversity and earned a backup in the CFL.
    Buckley proves the point you are trying to make that the CFL does give "top notch" QB talent a real shot. Too bad there are not more "top notch" Canadians out there.
    And no doubt you could name all sorts of CIS all-star or great stat QBs you've seen play who weren't near as good as Buckley and hence that's why they got zero real CFL shot from any of the GOBs running CFL teams? Carry on with your tired cliche ridden excuses on this file - nice job !

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    And no doubt you could name all sorts of CIS all-star or great stat QBs you've seen play who weren't near as good as Buckley and hence that's why they got zero real CFL shot from any of the GOBs running CFL teams? Carry on with your tired cliche ridden excuses on this file - nice job !
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    So who are "next ones" to follow Bridge and Buckley. I would suggest it would be Chris Merchant from Western and Michael O'Connor from UBC. I believe their draft years are
    2019. Noah Picton is draft eligable in 2018 and although he has great quarterback smarts, his lack of height will limit his opportunities. Michael Knevel from Laurier might also be
    a possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-ski View Post
    So who are "next ones" to follow Bridge and Buckley. I would suggest it would be Chris Merchant from Western and Michael O'Connor from UBC. I believe their draft years are
    2019. Noah Picton is draft eligable in 2018 and although he has great quarterback smarts, his lack of height will limit his opportunities. Michael Knevel from Laurier might also be
    a possibility.

    Knevel is a big QB and seems to have a pretty strong arm; but if you watched Laurier play in the play-offs last season, he was terribly out-classed in QB skills by Laval's Hugo Richard - way more accurate passer and smarter, more poised QB with mobility (and it had zero to do with Laval having the better all-around team - Laurier had a pretty strong defence).

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    Knevel is a big QB and seems to have a pretty strong arm; but if you watched Laurier play in the play-offs last season, he was terribly out-classed in QB skills by Laval's Hugo Richard - way more accurate passer and smarter, more poised QB with mobility (and it had zero to do with Laval having the better all-around team - Laurier had a pretty strong defence).
    I have to agree that Knevel has a lot of work to do. But who knows, maybe with a lot of work he may progress a lot in the next couple of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-ski View Post
    I have to agree that Knevel has a lot of work to do. But who knows, maybe with a lot of work he may progress a lot in the next couple of years.
    His brother - David - starting OT at Nebraska - should be near the top of the list of next year's top CFL draft prospects.

    Michael hasn't had that much playing time - as Laurier's starting QB - his first year starting was last season (?), so he has one or two more years left ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    Proud of you OV, I can imagine you were so mad you were shaking when typing your response.

    More like laughing at the pathetic cliche fest this subject always brings. Canadians are just so inferior at football, don't ya know - don't even deserve to compete against all the incredible American QB talent found across the CFL, on every team, every TC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    And no doubt you could name all sorts of CIS all-star or great stat QBs you've seen play who weren't near as good as Buckley and hence that's why they got zero real CFL shot from any of the GOBs running CFL teams? Carry on with your tired cliche ridden excuses on this file - nice job !
    So why did Buckley get named as the backup in Calgary? he obviously impressed the coaches. I'm sure there are dozens of examples where a player had better stats or played better in the CIS or NCAA but were cut in training camp. We've seen lower draft picks winning starting jobs and higher draft picks being cut.
    I don't know why you are getting so upset over someone's opinion. There is no conspiracy in the CFL to prevent Canadian QBs, the fact is there are dozens of QBs coming out of the NCAA that have more talent, better trained, faster, better coached.
    The top Canadian football players are being scouted in high school by the NCAA, Bridge was scouted and then signed by an NCAA school and trained there.
    We are seeing NCAA schools scouting Canadian high schools for the cream of the crop.
    There is a reason why the last Canadian CIS player to win the CFL MOP was almost 50 years ago.

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